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Graduate Entry Medicine: 2016 Entry

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Original post by sampowell92
The problem is I won't have any savings after paying that £3500 for the first year! How do you find time to work and study? Is it common for GEM students to work part time and do you think you could survive without working?


I worked weekends during term time and also during holidays/night shifts. I've had a job since I was 14 so I just had to so I could live haha.
This year as where I am we did all the preclinical in 9 months (2 years in 1) and this year we are just with the normal cohorts so i work ad-hoc night shifts sometimes unto 24 hours a week
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Original post by M150
Yeah but still the same amount to learn so I think I prefer the more structured approach. I do love the beach but I think a BBQ might be a bit optimistic considering it's Wales.

I have bought myself a new set of waterproofs for the start of term. Plus we start sooner than you :wink:


Much prefer learning my way, at my pace. I'm awful at didactic learning these days.
We only start a week after you :tongue: but I think our easter and summer vacation is longer than yours.

Just two different approaches, I'd rather the less contact time. Just let's you get on with learning. Equally I can appreciate the other mindset.

I so want to go shopping for the start of term but I can't spend much more money if I'm to stay in budget :frown:
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Original post by sampowell92
The problem is I won't have any savings after paying that £3500 for the first year! How do you find time to work and study? Is it common for GEM students to work part time and do you think you could survive without working?


On top of lcsurfer's comments, I didn't apply for 2014 entry just because I couldn't have afforded to go. I've spent an additional year working and saving to help me fund it. I get 6.5k loan in my first year and I'm expecting just about 7k a year for the NHS funded years when I'll get the maximum amounts.

I've swapped my graduate natwest bank account back to a student account and that has just made my overdraft interest free (£2k). I can also claim back a chunk of the tax and student loans I've paid so far this year from April as my total yearly income will be lower. I'm not planning to work in my first year because of this (for every £1 I earn, I would probably have been able to reclaim 29p if I hadn't worked) but that's because I've gone a little bit overtime mad so far this tax year.
Original post by M150
On top of lcsurfer's comments, I didn't apply for 2014 entry just because I couldn't have afforded to go. I've spent an additional year working and saving to help me fund it. I get 6.5k loan in my first year and I'm expecting just about 7k a year for the NHS funded years when I'll get the maximum amounts.

I've swapped my graduate natwest bank account back to a student account and that has just made my overdraft interest free (£2k). I can also claim back a chunk of the tax and student loans I've paid so far this year from April as my total yearly income will be lower. I'm not planning to work in my first year because of this (for every £1 I earn, I would probably have been able to reclaim 29p if I hadn't worked) but that's because I've gone a little bit overtime mad so far this tax year.


Is 6.5k a loan for the year not enough? That's roughly what i was getting at undergrad and it was enough to live relatively comfortably
Original post by sampowell92
Is 6.5k a loan for the year not enough? That's roughly what i was getting at undergrad and it was enough to live relatively comfortably


Average house rental seems to be around £320 inc bills, so after that you have about £220 a month to pay for food/socialising/societies/travel. Soon adds up but it's doable definitely. The hardest thing is that you're normally around for 12 months a year rather than just 9 as in undergraduate, where most (but not all) people **** off home again during the holidays :P
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Original post by sampowell92
Is 6.5k a loan for the year not enough? That's roughly what i was getting at undergrad and it was enough to live relatively comfortably


It should probably be ok in terms of money to live on but I would have struggled to get the £3.5k had I not spent the extra time working, I ended up being really lucky at work for the past few months so I've managed to grab loads of overtime. I also had to pay off all of my debt from my MSc before I could afford medicine which was high as I self funded using a PCDL. If it had just been a case of have £6.5k to live on it would have been fine.

Having spent the extra time working though I now have more savings which should help as a buffer. I'm renting a flat outside Swansea so I'll also have commuting costs on top of rent during my first year which won't affect most people. I also have to keep my car on the road so extra costs there.
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lcsurfer, I would hate to be working 25 hours alongside KCL's preclins. From what I gather they really pack it in. Props to you :smile:

Original post by sampowell92
Is 6.5k a loan for the year not enough? That's roughly what i was getting at undergrad and it was enough to live relatively comfortably


Original post by MJK91
Average house rental seems to be around £320 inc bills, so after that you have about £220 a month to pay for food/socialising/societies/travel. Soon adds up but it's doable definitely. The hardest thing is that you're normally around for 12 months a year rather than just 9 as in undergraduate, where most (but not all) people **** off home again during the holidays :P


Rental costs differ greatly depending on where you live and study. Ignoring London and the extra allowance, rental costs in Oxford are approximately £450pcm - £500pcm, Bristol is ~£400pcm and Derby, and similarly Swansea, is £250pcm - £300pcm.
That alone can make a huge difference to your budget. Whilst I was studying in Bristol and London, I had to work there was no other way around it. Now, where I'm going is cheaper and I've saved up for a contingency plan. For the first time since GCSEs, I won't be working and studying concurrently. Something I'm very pleased about.

One thing which I know I will struggle with is the readjustment to student life. No more outings for lunch/dinner everyday. No more classy food and drinks, unless it's bought on Groupon 4 months in advance or MSE post up an epic voucher. But that's fine, because when I'm a **** hot doc, I'll be scrawling with a Montblanc and ballin with a Breitling :rofl:
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Hey,

I'm sitting my UKCAT in 49 days, currently practicing a lot but timing is a massive issue, and even with longer, I'm still getting questions wrong!!

For the DA, wight he questions that provide the english statement first and you have to choose the most appropriate coded answer, does anyone have any suggestions on how to tackle that? Are people working out each code and matching it to the statement, or making their own code from the statement and comparing?

Does anyone have any good resources for QA too? Been looking at gcse bitesize and it's a bit naff.

Cheers

Rich
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Original post by Richardjamesford
Hey,

I'm sitting my UKCAT in 49 days, currently practicing a lot but timing is a massive issue, and even with longer, I'm still getting questions wrong!!

For the DA, wight he questions that provide the english statement first and you have to choose the most appropriate coded answer, does anyone have any suggestions on how to tackle that? Are people working out each code and matching it to the statement, or making their own code from the statement and comparing?

Does anyone have any good resources for QA too? Been looking at gcse bitesize and it's a bit naff.

Cheers

Rich


49 days!? Christ, be careful you don't run out of resources. That's way too soon to start revising in my opinion, but to each their own.

For DA, you have enough time to fully translate the code on the paper you are given. From there you can just look at the possibilities and choose the best match.

For QR, medify was the best resource I used.


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Original post by Richardjamesford
Hey,

I'm sitting my UKCAT in 49 days, currently practicing a lot but timing is a massive issue, and even with longer, I'm still getting questions wrong!!

For the DA, wight he questions that provide the english statement first and you have to choose the most appropriate coded answer, does anyone have any suggestions on how to tackle that? Are people working out each code and matching it to the statement, or making their own code from the statement and comparing?

Does anyone have any good resources for QA too? Been looking at gcse bitesize and it's a bit naff.

Cheers

Rich


Yeah 49 days is way too long to start revising, you might not run out of resources but you'll probably run out of steam!

For the DA questions with coded answers, I write out 'ABCDE' and then go through each one in my head, crossing out the ones that don't match the phrase. That's the quickest way I found anyway..

For QR I used Medify and the Kaplan book, both were very good. Don't use the 600Q book it's 10X more difficult than the real thing
Original post by sampowell92
Yeah 49 days is way too long to start revising, you might not run out of resources but you'll probably run out of steam!

For the DA questions with coded answers, I write out 'ABCDE' and then go through each one in my head, crossing out the ones that don't match the phrase. That's the quickest way I found anyway..

For QR I used Medify and the Kaplan book, both were very good. Don't use the 600Q book it's 10X more difficult than the real thing




Yeah I know it's very early. But I did the ukcat last year, didnt revise much at all and failed miserably. The way of thinking in the ukcat doesn't come naturally to me sadly, so gotta work for it. I'm pretty determined so I know I won't run out of steam ;-).

Ah thanks yeah, I'll give that a go. Yeah the 600 question book for qr is ridiculous! And what about for vr? For the harder style questions where it's not true false can't tell. I think I'm going to guess those ones, flag them and come back if I have time as they take ages! That sound like a pants idea?

Rich
Original post by Richardjamesford
Yeah I know it's very early. But I did the ukcat last year, didnt revise much at all and failed miserably. The way of thinking in the ukcat doesn't come naturally to me sadly, so gotta work for it. I'm pretty determined so I know I won't run out of steam ;-).

Ah thanks yeah, I'll give that a go. Yeah the 600 question book for qr is ridiculous! And what about for vr? For the harder style questions where it's not true false can't tell. I think I'm going to guess those ones, flag them and come back if I have time as they take ages! That sound like a pants idea?

Rich


Yeah that's not a great idea as they make up the majority of the VR questions. For those, the best idea is to read the question first, choose a keyword from each answer (or one keyword if all the answers have it in), and skim read the passage.

You'll get a lot faster with practise so don't give up!
Great thanks. Aiming for 750! Fingers crossed
Is anyone here applying in their 3rd year of their undergraduate degree? I feel so overwhelmed by mature students haha.
Original post by ali.s1002
Is anyone here applying in their 3rd year of their undergraduate degree? I feel so overwhelmed by mature students haha.


I graduated a few weeks ago so definitely not a mature student! As far as I'm aware, the majority of GEM applicants are finishing/just out of uni..
Original post by ali.s1002
Is anyone here applying in their 3rd year of their undergraduate degree? I feel so overwhelmed by mature students haha.


I graduated in 2014 so I'll be 23 when I start hopefully!


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Original post by ali.s1002
Is anyone here applying in their 3rd year of their undergraduate degree? I feel so overwhelmed by mature students haha.


I graduated a few weeks ago too and I'll be 22 when I start if I get in :-)
Personally I prefer mature students so I'm looking forward to not starting a course with a load of 18 year olds!


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Original post by tw781
I graduated a few weeks ago too and I'll be 22 when I start if I get in :-)
Personally I prefer mature students so I'm looking forward to not starting a course with a load of 18 year olds!


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I'll be 26 when (if) i start next sept. Am I classed as mature now!? Hope not!!
Original post by Richardjamesford
I'll be 26 when (if) i start next sept. Am I classed as mature now!? Hope not!!


I believe so! I think you're classed as mature when you're 25+
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Original post by Richardjamesford
I'll be 26 when (if) i start next sept. Am I classed as mature now!? Hope not!!


On paper I think you are but my bf is 26 and I would not ever think he would be classed as a mature student so in the eyes of students, you're still a spring chicken haha


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