When do you think the downfall of music started?

Does the V not come in there too?

Are you talking about 12 bar? In which case, yeah that's right.

The difference being, to my ear, that the 6-4-1-5 is deliberately used to add a saccharine flavour. Which the twelve bar does not. Quite the opposite in fact.

So we have more music in the world, more variety of music easily available, yet you consider music to be in freefall because the mass populace doesn't like the same music you do?


Interesting.

It's because the people who run the massive music corporations know absolutely nothing about music. They know about accountancy and marketing. And people are stupid enough to buy it.

However, there is still good music, but you now have to dig more to find it because of all the mass produced rubbish. That was probably always the way, except there was less rubbish to sift through.

Try not taking any notice of what's shoved in your face by the marketeers, and look elsewhere.

Or more likely you're just seeing all the music out today good and bad, but the only music from older generations that has survived was the really good stuff. Every era of music has had some truly **** stuff in it.

nope completely missed the point there

when nicki minaj got popular

When pop idol started and X Factor.

I think the quality of pop music now is awful and started to deteriorate around 2010 but I also think the quality of Alternative Music has improved so I no longer listen to pop as, quite frankly, it is now god awful and only talks about sex and clubbing

Alternative is where it's at

Hardly. You think music is at a low point, I think you just don't like what you hear on the radio.

Let's clarify then, what makes you say music is at a low point?

Or more likely you're just seeing all the music out today good and bad, but the only music from older generations that has survived was the really good stuff. Every era of music has had some truly **** stuff in it.

If you're talking about pop music I would say around the time Justin Bieber started to achieve fame.

I mean you can't blame it all on one artist but definitely the genre of music that Nicki Minaj plays a role in has deteriorated...



Isn't X-Factor just basically covers?



Can you give some examples of alternative...I never really know what it is!