Liberals seem to be incapable of comprehending what the "Muslim Ban" is about

Close but no cigar.

If a large minority of Irish people displayed the same animosity toward the West and the US in particular as a very large minority of Muslims, then yes.

I agree Saudi should be named in the ban too.

Still curious as to why Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Afghanistan and Pakistan or not on the list when most of terrorist attacks on American soil have involved perpetrators from these countries including 9/11. These are also to a degree unstable countries especially Afganistan and Pakistan. İs this ban on citizens of the current seven cou tried for other reasons rather than protecting the US?

You mean tell the parents that the killer would not have been caught by the ban?

Because you know, he was American. Born in New York.

Considering the great hostility British public and EU politicians are showing towards Trump with 1 British national already pleading guilty to an assassination attempt on him, it's only fair to ban Uzbekistan next.

What's great is Trump ban has now been labelled illegal and it's gonna be fun watching it get shot down at every level of the American justice system. I hope he starts going after each of these judges personally, next. That should be a good solid first step to impeachment.

So you would deport every single Muslim in the US (and presumably the UK or are you American)? How are you going to do that?

No.

But then why are you for a ban and saying things like that wouldn't happen if you hadn't let immigrants in. You are contradicting yourself.

Well, if Mateens parents had stayed in Afghanistan he wouldn't have been born in the US and wouldn't have had the opportunity to slaughter people in a US nightclub. FACT.

Muslims with the right to be in the US should be treated on an individual basis, ordinary decent ones left alone those involved in Islamic extremism should be prosecuted and or deported when possible.

I don't recall anyone but you suggesting all Muslims should be deported.

Yes you didn't say it but it was what you implied. If only that ban would have been in existence before. What is the ban going to do now, that so many Muslims already live in the US, or the UK for that matter? IS do not need to send jihadis to the UK, they just need to recruit young teenagers on the internet.

How are you going to judge the entire Muslim population of the US "on an individual basis"?

No, you inferred it.

Yes there are a lot of Muslims in the US and the UK some who are hostile to Western democracy, why let more in?

How are you going to judge the entire Muslim population of the US "on an individual basis"

Already answered.

Muslims with the right to be in the US should be treated on an individual basis, ordinary decent ones left alone those involved in Islamic extremism should be prosecuted and or deported when possible.

Important bit in bold.

6 out of 7 countries on the ban list are active war zones. Which means they have unstable governments, poor infrastructure, and consequently poor documentation of their citizens, undermining any vetting process that might be employed during their immigration to the US.

For the most part, we have no idea who the people coming over from these countries are. Sure, most may be good people fleeing a conflict, but until there is a reliable way to evaluate the background of these individuals, it's anyone's guess.

That's what this ban is about. Temporarily limiting immigration from countries where it is difficult to assess citizens prior to granting them legal entry to the US, until measures have been implemented to do this.

It has nothing to do with "Muslims". Out of the 10 countries with the highest Muslim populations in the world, only one is on this list.

And yes, how do you determine who are the ordinary decent ones on an individual basis?

Nah man, follow your argument to the logical conclusion. I did not infer anything, it's what your logic implies. Incidentally, what you wrote now is fine, but when you make an argument like "yea he is american but if his parents hadn't come", you change it.

And yes, how do you determine who are the ordinary decent ones on an individual basis?

Seriously, you do not understand how law enforcement works?

If law enforcement suspect you of committing a crime they investigate you.

if you're not suspected of a crime they tend to leave you alone.

Standard procedure all over the developed world.

You deny that its a FACT that if Mateens parents had not been allowed to enter the US, he would not have had the opportunity to slaughter the patrons of Pulse nightclub?

Question never asked.

Is Muslim immigration into the USA vital for the future wellbeing and prosperity of the US?

Answer, an emphatic NO.

But you are making a very specific point here. "Muslims with the right to be in the US should be treated on an individual basis, ordinary decent ones left alone those involved in Islamic extremism should be prosecuted and or deported when possible."

How are you going to have a look at every single Muslim and decide "he is ordinary"? I mean otherwise what you are suggesting is ironically what you just said: "Standard procedure all over the developed world." So either you are saying nothing, and everything continues as it already is (standard procedure), or you are trying to make some sort of point in which case I ask you again, how would you go about on an individual basis?

Yes. How do you know he could not have gotten to the US anyway? Interesting to see what you consider "FACT".

Holy crap!

Muslims should be treated on an individual basis, just like every other US citizen.

Come on its not that complicated.

Sorry but the "no point doing that, people will find ways to get round it" argument is not any kind of argument at all.

But do you know what would be vital? Deporting every single white kid that goes to buy a gun and then shoots people.