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Ronaldo doesnt deserve it.Most likely messi...Btw can we all agree that ramos is the most disgraceful footballer out there.
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Salah. He terrorised the Madrid team before Ramos dislocated his shoulder. If not win, he should come runner up. Ronaldo has not had the impact Salah has had on his team.
Balon D'Or is decided on calendar year performance, there is still 6 months of football left to decide where it goes, pointless even making predictions at this point.
Depends on the World Cup but if Portugal/Argentina don't do much then it will be difficult to call.

Also this thread is a bit early.
Oh boy. Here I come...
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I was under the impression the prize is for the best footballer in that season. Compare Ronaldo and Salah during the first 25 minutes of the final. If Salah had not been injured, he may have had even more of an impact. Salah has been the best player, though it is close between him and Messi.
If Argentina win the World Cup - Messi
If they don’t - Ronaldo

Sad but true. Some exceptional circumstances too like if Modric/Salah got Croatia/Egypt to the final or something, they could be in for a shout too.
Original post by Tawheed
I was under the impression the prize is for the best footballer in that season. Compare Ronaldo and Salah during the first 25 minutes of the final. If Salah had not been injured, he may have had even more of an impact. Salah has been the best player, though it is close between him and Messi.


It's the best player of a calender year, not a season.
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Messi and Ronaldo guided their teams to trophies, which is what the best players do.

Messi and Ronaldo top 2.
Original post by zakuchiha
Ronaldo doesnt deserve it.Most likely messi...Btw can we all agree that ramos is the most disgraceful footballer out there.


Ramos didn't do it on purpose. Plus, what a lot of people don't realise is that, Ramos was interlocked with Salah's right arm, yet Salah dislocated his left. Salah simply fell in an awkward position, therefore it's no one's fault. A lot of people are saying Ramos pulled his shoulder out it's socket. He must be a magician if he did that to the complete opposite arm without even touching it.

Original post by Tawheed
Salah. He terrorised the Madrid team before Ramos dislocated his shoulder. If not win, he should come runner up. Ronaldo has not had the impact Salah has had on his team.


Ronaldo doesn't deserve it? He won Real Madrid 17 points. Without him, they'd be 7th place. With Ronaldo in the starting 11, Real Madrid won 71% of their games, without him, they won 43% just about. Super important since Ronaldo didn't play against most of the lower teams in the league, especially away. 28% difference massive for a team like Real Madrid.

In the Champions League (What ultimately matters) Ronaldo had a goal or an assist in 52% of Real Madrid goals. He scored every single winner besides in the final itself. After Ronaldo, the top scorer was Benzema with 5 goals, compared to Salah, Firmino, Mane all having similar stats of 9+ goals. Ronaldo one manned Madrid up to the Final and if anyone wants to argue the fact that all the goals were made for him, why didn't Bale or Benzema score 15 too.

For Messi: Barcelona without him won 60% of their games. With him 72% of their games. Only a 12% difference compared Ronaldo's 28% and slightly better than Liverpool winning 50% without Salah and 58% with. Individually; Messi 1.16 g/a per game, Ronaldo 1.18 g/a pg, Salah 1.15 g/a pg. Without Messi's goals; Barcelona would've dropped 14 points which would've still won them the league whilst being equal on points with Atletico Madrid. Salah won Liverpool 22 points. Without him they'd be 8th place. (These stats have shocked me too, I was hearing a lot about how much Barcelona rely too much on Messi, I guess it's not true)

It all depends on the World Cup. Ronaldo wins if Messi or Neymar don't win the World Cup. Messi wins it if he wins the World Cup even if he only scores like 3 goals. Neymar wins if he is the main man for Brazil and scores or assists 6+ goals and De Bruyne might have a shout if Belgium somehow win the World Cup (anything is possible).
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Original post by Cxm
Ramos didn't do it on purpose. Plus, what a lot of people don't realise is that, Ramos was interlocked with Salah's right arm, yet Salah dislocated his left. Salah simply fell in an awkward position, therefore it's no one's fault. A lot of people are saying Ramos pulled his shoulder out it's socket. He must be a magician if he did that to the complete opposite arm without even touching it.



Ronaldo doesn't deserve it? He won Real Madrid 17 points. Without him, they'd be 7th place. With Ronaldo in the starting 11, Real Madrid won 71% of their games, without him, they won 43% just about. Super important since Ronaldo didn't play against most of the lower teams in the league, especially away. 28% difference massive for a team like Real Madrid.

In the Champions League (What ultimately matters) Ronaldo had a goal or an assist in 52% of Real Madrid goals. He scored every single winner besides in the final itself. After Ronaldo, the top scorer was Benzema with 5 goals, compared to Salah, Firmino, Mane all having similar stats of 9+ goals. Ronaldo one manned Madrid up to the Final and if anyone wants to argue the fact that all the goals were made for him, why didn't Bale or Benzema score 15 too.

For Messi: Barcelona without him won 60% of their games. With him 72% of their games. Only a 12% difference compared Ronaldo's 28% and slightly better than Liverpool winning 50% without Salah and 58% with. Individually; Messi 1.16 g/a per game, Ronaldo 1.18 g/a pg, Salah 1.15 g/a pg. Without Messi's goals; Barcelona would've dropped 14 points which would've still won them the league whilst being equal on points with Atletico Madrid. Salah won Liverpool 22 points. Without him they'd be 8th place. (These stats have shocked me too, I was hearing a lot about how much Barcelona rely too much on Messi, I guess it's not true)

It all depends on the World Cup. Ronaldo wins if Messi or Neymar don't win the World Cup. Messi wins it if he wins the World Cup even if he only scores like 3 goals. Neymar wins if he is the main man for Brazil and scores or assists 6+ goals and De Bruyne might have a shout if Belgium somehow win the World Cup (anything is possible).


One manned Madrid up to the final? Oh right remind me where he was against Bayern? Second leg against Juventus scored a penalty but was shite along with the rest of Madrid team. Don't make garbage up about one manned to the final. Otherwise lets say Madrid 10 manned against Liverpool yesterday because he couldn't dribble past Stephen Hawking.

Messi and Ronaldo are 1A 1B right now. League + Cup double against Champions league. Ronaldo appearing for 3 month stretch won't win him the Ballon D'or. All he needed to do was have a 7/10 performance but he was dreadful. Its completely open right now for him, messi, Neymar and even Salah if he can make the World cup.
Mohammed Salah.
Original post by TheLittlestElf
One manned Madrid up to the final? Oh right remind me where he was against Bayern? Second leg against Juventus scored a penalty but was shite along with the rest of Madrid team. Don't make garbage up about one manned to the final. Otherwise lets say Madrid 10 manned against Liverpool yesterday because he couldn't dribble past Stephen Hawking.

Messi and Ronaldo are 1A 1B right now. League + Cup double against Champions league. Ronaldo appearing for 3 month stretch won't win him the Ballon D'or. All he needed to do was have a 7/10 performance but he was dreadful. Its completely open right now for him, messi, Neymar and even Salah if he can make the World cup.


G1: Apoel 0-3 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored 2, assisted 1)
G2: Dortmund 1-3 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored 2)
G3: Spurs 1-1 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored)
G4: Spurs 3-1 Real Madrid (Lost but Ronaldo scored)
G5: Apoel 0-6 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored 2, assisted 1)
G6: Dortmund 2-3 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored)
G7: PSG 1-3 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored 2)
G8: PSG 1-2 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored, assisted 1)
G9: Juventus 0-3 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored 2, assisted 1)
G10: Juventus 3-1 Real Madrid (Ronaldo scored) One of the must clutch moments of his life, most others would've missed under that much pressure.
G11, 12: No goals, No assists. First game against Bayern, went missing. Second game against Bayern he played as good as anyone else on the pitch.
Final: Went missing.

So without him 1. He won them 7 points in the Group Stages. Real Madrid wouldn't gotten out without him.
2. He was involved in 4/5 goals against PSG. They wouldn't have beaten them without him.
3. He was involved in 4/6 goals against Juventus. They wouldn't have beaten them without him.
4. Semi Final he didn't score but played as good as anyone else. The whole team was poor.
5. I'm fine with him going missing in the Final instead of not having him at all because then we would've been out in the Group Stages,
Reply 14
Should be Messi, as for every year since 2008
Sergio Ramos

About time a defender won the Ballon D'Or.
Lori Karius for helping Real Madrid win the Champions League.
Right now
Ronaldo
Salah
Messi
in that order but with World Cup and the new season this will most likely change
Again if Argentina win WC Messi
If they don't then Ronaldo because Ronaldo won UCL
At the end of this year (Prediction)
Ronaldo
Messi
Salah
Unless Messi wins Argentina the World Cup, it'll be Ronaldo.
As long as they are playing in Spain or in a top club and reaping victories by victories, it is always between those two. And after winning the champions league and being the top scorer in this competition, Ronaldo wins it. The World Cup does not matter, see 2014...

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