Crazy surg reg

Just talking to my surg reg and is this normal?

Post grad taken 6 exams mrcs part a and b as well as umle (keen to do fellowship in New York)

2 masters
1 diploma
Keen to do a phd with clinical trials whilst want to specialise in neurosurgery

Then there is me..... attend work get home eat sleep repeat 😬

Reply 1

Nottie

18

for a surgery reg interested in neurosurgery? I think it's pretty normal

Which is exactly why O&G is the only surgery worth doing :P

Reply 2

hslakaal

17

I swear there's some limit on how many years of surgical experience you can have for reg jobs?

Like surely, if he's already a reg, don't see how he can "specialise" in neuro...?

Reply 3

girl_in_black

16

Original post by Anonymous

Just talking to my surg reg and is this normal?

Post grad taken 6 exams mrcs part a and b as well as umle (keen to do fellowship in New York)

2 masters
1 diploma
Keen to do a phd with clinical trials whilst want to specialise in neurosurgery

Then there is me..... attend work get home eat sleep repeat 😬

That's the key word :wink:

Two masters seems unusual but the rest is pretty standard for someone applying for neurosurgery.

Original post by hslakaal

I swear there's some limit on how many years of surgical experience you can have for reg jobs?

Like surely, if he's already a reg, don't see how he can "specialise" in neuro...?

They could be reapplying from a different surgical specialty/CST?

Reply 4

Democracy

20

Original post by Anonymous

Then there is me..... attend work get home eat sleep repeat 😬

Do you want to go into a very competitive specialty? Are you at a comparable stage in your training?

Reply 5

Letournel

15

Original post by Anonymous

Just talking to my surg reg and is this normal?

Post grad taken 6 exams mrcs part a and b as well as umle (keen to do fellowship in New York)

2 masters
1 diploma
Keen to do a phd with clinical trials whilst want to specialise in neurosurgery

Then there is me..... attend work get home eat sleep repeat 😬

I assume 6 exams is MRCS plus Step 1/2CS/2CK/3, most people would have to only do two (MRCS part A and B - plus any resits). I think most if they knew they wanted to do a fellowship in the US would do step 1 (+/- 2) in medical school. Step 1 is tonnes of basic science so if you were taking it at a similar time to MRCS part A you wouldn't have to add in too much more to pass MRCS.

Many will do a masters though two is less common, suppose it depends what they are in as to whether it adds much. Personally did an Mres at uni but now working would like to do a second more specific one (to help with future research topic of interest), wouldn't usually see people doing multiple unless there is a specific requirement.

Lots of people get diplomas of education etc nowadays or do the edinburgh surgical sciences course whilst prepping for exams.

Again many do PhD nowadays with increased availability and acceptance of ACF/OOPR.

That being said i found that the neurosurgery SpRs were the least interested in research (only one in the department i worked in had done a PhD), they were ridiculously busy with clinical work though. Most academic was definitely HPB/transplant, all the SpRs had postgrad research degrees as did all but one consultant.

Reply 6

girl_in_black

16

Original post by plrodham1

That being said i found that the neurosurgery SpRs were the least interested in research (only one in the department i worked in had done a PhD), they were ridiculously busy with clinical work though. Most academic was definitely HPB/transplant, all the SpRs had postgrad research degrees as did all but one consultant.

I think this might be unit-specific, actually. Most of our neurosurgical registrars have either done a PhD or are planning to do one - almost seems like it's the expected thing to do for them after ST3. A few have also done MRCP in addition to MRCS.

Reply 7

Letournel

15

Original post by girl_in_black

I think this might be unit-specific, actually. Most of our neurosurgical registrars have either done a PhD or are planning to do one - almost seems like it's the expected thing to do for them after ST3. A few have also done MRCP in addition to MRCS.

It most definitely will be, i imagine say addenbrookes will be full of neurosurgeons with research degrees given it's such a beacon of academic neurosurgery.

Interesting that they'd opt to do MRCP, any particular reason they wanted to fork out for this in addition to MRCS (as opposed to just using the syllabus as a guide for private revision)?

Reply 8

girl_in_black

16

Original post by plrodham1

It most definitely will be, i imagine say addenbrookes will be full of neurosurgeons with research degrees given it's such a beacon of academic neurosurgery.

Interesting that they'd opt to do MRCP, any particular reason they wanted to fork out for this in addition to MRCS (as opposed to just using the syllabus as a guide for private revision)?

It apparently helps with research and getting funding.

Reply 9

Rahrah654

1

Is it with neurosurgery only or can you apply to Cardiothoracic and orthopaedics as both do have medical aspects and it would make sense sitting mrcp helping with research funding

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