Black Lives Matter: an incoherent and moronic movement.

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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    I was not referring to Whites only, but non-Blacks as a whole, as the argument some are trying to display is that Blacks are more violent than other races.
    Oh FFS! No one is trying to display that.
    I can only assume that you are deliberately continuing with this straw manning to avoid addressing the point of this thread, that the central claim of the BLM movement in the US is false.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Oh FFS! No one is trying to display that.
    I can only assume that you are deliberately continuing with this straw manning to avoid addressing the point of this thread, that the central claim of the BLM movement in the US is false.
    Are you wilfully blinding yourself to blatant racism? Here is what was said:

    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Says a guy who defends racism and states that Black people are more violent and less intelligent than White people. OK.
    To which one user replied:
    (Original post by Crijjkal)
    So why do they commit the majority of violent crime ? For example in London 67% of gun crimes is done by Blacks.
    Which clearly means: "yes, Blacks are more violent. Look at what they do in London.

    There were others which have been deleted now but a couple remain.

    (Original post by jake4198)
    As I discussed, generally speaking, black people are less intelligent. However, this doesn't mean all blacks are less intelligent than whites.

    As I discussed, black people - generally speaking - are more violent and more criminal than white people.
    (Original post by KingBradly)
    I don't see why people ignore the fact that blacks are statistically more violent and less intelligent.
    I don't buy for a second that you "didn't see it".
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    That isn't the point. I called the OP out on saying that Blacks are generally less intelligent and more violent than other races in a different thread. Other users tried to "prove" that he was was right by quoting US crime stats. How is it that US crime stats enough to prove that an entire race that resides in various parts of the world is more violent than other races, but pointing out that other races have perpetuated far more violence on an international scale is a "non sequitur"?
    I have not seen a claim that blacks are "more violent and less intelligent than other races" on this thread.
    If I had, I would have challenged it for the racists nonsense that it is.

    I think you should really confine discussion to the appropriate thread to avoid this kind of confusion. Refuting a claim on a thread where it hasn't been made is not good practice.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    And who waged the most wars worldwide, historically and in the present time period? Certainly not Black people.
    You can't blame White people for having the enlightenment and then the industrial revolution before literally creating the modern world.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    It still does not compare with regards to the body count and destruction that resulted from these wars.
    Whataboutery does not count as a valid argument in any debate. I suggest you rethink your position.
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    Video of a white guy being beaten up in Charlotte because of his skin colour.

    https://www.facebook.com/lenard.s.be...0126282002027/


    #BlackLiesMurder
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    I see that most of us still believe in this "we" society thing.

    Black lives do matter, GOOD Black lives. There's no denying that there's a growing problem with todays black youth but its not all or most blacks. If BLM can thin out the bad ones and fight for the good ones, I down to support their cause.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Are you wilfully blinding yourself to blatant racism? Here is what was said:



    To which one user replied:


    Which clearly means: "yes, Blacks are more violent. Look at what they do in London.

    There were others which have been deleted now but a couple remain.





    I don't buy for a second that you "didn't see it".
    (Original post by QE2)
    I have not seen a claim that blacks are "more violent and less intelligent than other races" on this thread.
    If I had, I would have challenged it for the racists nonsense that it is.

    I think you should really confine discussion to the appropriate thread to avoid this kind of confusion. Refuting a claim on a thread where it hasn't been made is not good practice.
    One demographic "committing more violent crime on average" could be taken to mean that demographic is "more violent", especially as violent crime would seem like a rather obvious expression of violence. Same goes for intelligence and IQ scores etc. It can be an objective statement of fact rather than a slight against black people, as it is not necessarily saying that they are inherently more violent or less intelligent and that this applies to every single black person.

    This senseless fight over what is essentially wording and semantics is taking up way too much of this thread. Give it a rest, or I'll turn the car around and no-one goes to Disneyland.
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    In theory its a jolly good movement in practice though it seems to attract all manner of yobs, racists, hooligans and other uncivilized people who hijack it and seem to instead justify any police racism, to a point.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    And who waged the most wars worldwide, historically and in the present time period? Certainly not Black people.
    Those mongol dudes made the largest empire ever seen, so I'm gonna go for those guys.
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    Going back to the main point of the article, some main BLM topics and my opinions...

    -- Police kill too many black people.
    I agree, but I really don't think this is a problem limited to black people. American police kill a lot of people, and I think a significant part of that is that the people in the US are simply more dangerous because anybody could be carrying a gun. I have no sympathy if you were carrying a gun and/or resisting arrest and you get shot. When its clear the victim wasn't a hazard, it's sad and wrong and there should absolutely be consequences (and too often, there just aren't any).

    Worth pointing out here that gang culture and a general disrespect for police comes into the resisting arrest problem ... And there are many 'black ghetto' areas in the us, which (the same as crummy council estates in the uk) generally have higher rates of crime and poverty and illiteracy/lower standards of education.

    -- #Oscarssowhite
    I just laugh at this one. Will Smith bitter about not getting an award for his awful film that year is not representative of black oppression. Sure, there are less black people in movies than white, but I'd be interested to see how that skews if you take economic demographics into that...

    -- Racist attitudes towards black people
    Yeah. Applicable to almost anyone non caucasian in certain areas of the US...

    Ultimately I think more needs to be done to lift everyone out of poverty & gaining a good education, getting people into work, etc. I think a lot of it is simply down to economics, demographics, and simple attitudes... The shootings are harder to ignore and in some cases simply revolting... Also harder to solve... But looting local businesses isn't the solution, either. I think if people want change they should go out into the community with a positive contribution... Volunteering, working for the police, etc. Causing damage on this scale (and interrupting flights, I'm looking at u BLM UK) just makes them look like yobbos...
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    I don't buy for a second that you "didn't see it".
    No, I didn't see that particular post. An I shall be constructing a suitably stinging ripost to that poster.
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    (Original post by Dandaman1)
    Give it a rest, or I'll turn the car around and no-one goes to Disneyland.
    Dad! Dad! There's a MacDonalds!
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    The west is dying, however only white people help black people, no one else would stand for any of their various crap.
    Fascism, a key belief is the survival of the fittest, whites being liberal and illogical means, even though some of us are not as described, the white race should die. Sad but true, look at how ****ing leftist/socialist our society is.
    muh feminism not paid same as man work less hours and less bad conditions, use more tax money, live longer, have more control over marital affairs. Get with black men
    MUH WHIT MAN OPRESSON
 
 
 
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