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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    First they came for Charlie Hebdo and i did not speak out, because I was not Charlie

    Then they came for Britain first and i did not speak out because i was not Britain First

    Then they came for homosexuals and i did not speak out because i was not homosexual..

    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me
    No ones 'coming for you' lmao, get over this delusion that Islam is invading the UK
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Her point is that you are basing a BF video which is no doubt heavily edited as though these are the complete facts of what actually happened. Of course the violence was utterly wrong but how do you know it was a "peaceful protest"? How do you know what was said and done by BF? Anything that could have made them look bad would have been cut.
    a lot of other people have been justifying the violence. I am not deluding myself that BF didn't do bad things. My concern is that this country now has areas which are essentially run by a Muslim majority and become no go areas. Also Islam as a religion seeks tolerance but is noticeably intolerant to criticism/being challenged.

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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Wrong, anyone, regardless of religion, who responds with violence to protests can be compared to, in an analogy, as a venomous snake.

    Nice try kid
    Your words buddy... backtrack all you want but the mask has slipped. Bigotry of soft expectations is showing.

    If i were muslim, i would be far far far more disgusted and concerned by your remarks and bigotry than by a bunch of cross wielding British patriots
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    No ones 'coming for you' lmao, get over this delusion that Islam is invading the UK
    They watch too many movies or play too many video games. They fancy themselves freedom fighters in a WWIII era standing up for what is right against the new Nazis who happen to be 5% of the population with very little political power.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Your words buddy... backtrack all you want but the mask has slipped. Bigotry of soft expectations is showing.

    If i were muslim, i would be far far far more disgusted and concerned by your remarks and bigotry than by a bunch of cross wielding British patriots
    Lol don't pretend you're offended by my analogy which had no relation to religion, but was solely based on the reaction mechanism. We both know you've posted far more offensive and bigoted stuff here in the last few weeks.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    I'm also noting the defense that Muslims will always react violently when 'provoked' so better not provoke them (Racism of low expectations)
    Oh look Frank... seems im not the only one. LMFAO

    Shot yourself in the foot me good mate
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    He wasn't saying that the actions of the extremists have nothing to do with Islam. he admitted that they follow a certain interpretation that makes them commit the crimes that they commit.

    What many people are taking issue with is the way you and a few others here are generalising all Muslims, lumping them in with the radicals. Most of my immediate family are Muslims and they haven't killed or tried to harm me for leaving the religion.

    And please, don't pretend that you care about women in Muslim countries :rolleyes:
    I don't care about them any more/less than the average person I was using it as an example which has shaped my view of Islam (not just extremism) Why should people suffer unnecessary hardship/oppression as a result of a backward religion? Also I am not lumping them together but saying it is an ideology that we don't want to encourage. If they were Christians I don't believe they would have been that bothered or reacted violently (don't mention Christians in other countries) as I am referring to Christians in the UK.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Lol don't pretend you're offended by my analogy which had no relation to religion, but was solely based on the reaction mechanism. We both know you've posted far more offensive and bigoted stuff here in the last few weeks.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    They caused the aggression by provoking them, so technically yes they were the aggressors. Without Britain First's presence, no violence would have occurred that day in that location.
    Shafelia Ahmed and every victim of "Honor killing" caused the aggression by provoking their families so technically she was the aggressor. Without Shafelia Ahmeds disobedience, no murder would have occured that day in that location

    Gay people murdered for being gay caused the aggression by provoking anti gay people by being gay so technically they are the aggressors. Without gays, no homophobic murders would occur ever

    Rape victims caused the rape by provoking men (Who are like dogs on heat) by being female and wearing a skirt. Without their gender and choice of clothing, no violent rape would have occured that day. Technically they are the instigators of their own rape

    Shall i continue Frank?
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    I don't care about them any more/less than the average person I was using it as an example which has shaped my view of Islam (not just extremism) Why should people suffer unnecessary hardship/oppression as a result of a backward religion? Also I am not lumping them together but saying it is an ideology that we don't want to encourage. If they were Christians I don't believe they would have been that bothered or reacted violently (don't mention Christians in other countries) as I am referring to Christians in the UK.
    Islam is not "encouraged", its adherents are simply given the same rights to religious freedom that all other recognised religions are given.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    I don't support violence, I just think that they aren't 'out of the world' to want to harm someone who is mocking their religion. It's not as if they are going and attacking random people for no reason. These Muslims are humans, and they will get angry when people gather in masses to insult their beliefs.
    You truly are the gift that keeps on giving. I have said this to you before but i really do hope for your sake you are very young (Like 16 or under)
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    I remember a few years ago the edl came to walthamstow and we beat the living day lights out of them lol.
    And it werent just muslims either.
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    (Original post by Marco1)
    They have the right to protest peacefully and they were attacked by violent thugs who also attacked the police who were doing their job. The guys that attacked the march and the police are criminals that should all be arrested. Simple as that. No buts. And the flags are the sacred emblems of this country!!! Got a problem with that?
    I love people like you.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    The EDL is still organising protests after members were arrested for violent and disorderly behaviour numerous times during these protests.
    So you would punish them all for the actions of the few?

    But that doesn't at all negate my point.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    You truly are the gift that keeps on giving. I have said this to you before but i really do hope for your sake you are very young (Like 16 or under)
    Age assumptions? Come on, we both know the only reason you're attacking my age is because you've run out of flak for your main argument, which was hollow anyway. I'm not under 16, nor am I 16.


    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Shafelia Ahmed and every victim of "Honor killing" caused the aggression by provoking their families so technically she was the aggressor. Without Shafelia Ahmeds disobedience, no murder would have occured that day in that location

    Gay people murdered for being gay caused the aggression by provoking anti gay people by being gay so technically they are the aggressors. Without gays, no homophobic murders would occur ever

    Rape victims caused the rape by provoking men (Who are like dogs on heat) by being female and wearing a skirt. Without their gender and choice of clothing, no violent rape would have occured that day. Technically they are the instigators of their own rape

    Shall i continue Frank?
    Not sure why you're unnecessarily extrapolating this. People like you on here have an adorable tendency to take one thing and extrapolate it to another, incompatible situation.

    Are rape victims, prior to rape, mocking the beliefs of the would-be rapist? No
    Are gay people who would be killed, prior to death, actively insulting the would-be murderer? No

    So quit trying to be clever, apples and oranges - reactions to anti-Muslim protests is completely different from the situations you listed.


    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Oh look Frank... seems im not the only one. LMFAO

    Shot yourself in the foot me good mate
    BaconandSauce? The one who claimed that half of Muslims support ISIS? Lol, I blocked that troll
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    BaconandSauce? The one who claimed that half of Muslims support ISIS? Lol, I blocked that troll
    It's easy to win an argument when you lie.

    In the real world however this tactic will fail as will you.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    I don't support violence, I just think that they aren't 'out of the world' to want to harm someone who is mocking their religion. It's not as if they are going and attacking random people for no reason. These Muslims are humans, and they will get angry when people gather in masses to insult their beliefs.


    You are a complete idiot.
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    (Original post by Butternuts96)
    Uneducated ignoramuses like yourself never fail to shock me. I am absolutely perplexed that you believe that there are muslim run no go areas. This makes absolutely no sense! This is a completely baseless lie and you have honestly proven that you are genuinely quite dumb and gullible. Fact.

    I live in Tower Hamlets and there is no significant amount of racism (none at all that I've ever seen or heard of tbh) in our entire borough. All colours getting along brilliantly; the community cohesion here is second to none yet we are being referred to as muslim no go areas.

    Absolute stupidity at its finest.


    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...o-zones-exist/

    http://www.infowars.com/ex-nypd-dete...ld-come-to-us/


    Just because you're too stupid to conduct any form of research on this subject doesn't mean he is an idiot for pointing out facts.
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    (Original post by Attempt)
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...o-zones-exist/

    http://www.infowars.com/ex-nypd-dete...ld-come-to-us/


    Just because you're too stupid to conduct any form of research on this subject doesn't mean he is an idiot for pointing out facts.
    The first link was about an area in Belgium that the authorities couldn't control, not the UK (Jindal was criticised for not being able to name one here) and the second was a man's scaremongering opinion. So you have not proven him wrong.
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    (Original post by Attempt)
    You are a complete idiot.
    He'd be the first to complain if this was violence being used against Muslims going about their law abiding business (and I'm sure some could find enough provocation to justify it to themselves)
 
 
 
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