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    (Original post by SarahFletcher)
    Oh dear, I've barely started revising for this exam. I had a resit for F211 last week and I've (probably wrongly) spent the majority of my time on that. Looks like I've got a week and a half to learn the whole syllabus *sighs*
    Exactly the same as me! And I have another exam the day after so I'm struggling for time
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    (Original post by Perseverance)
    Exactly the same as me! And I have another exam the day after so I'm struggling for time
    Hopefully we'll be able to pull through. I'm really hoping not to have to resit this again in the summer with F114 to do aswell.

    I'm struggling with Action Potential/Local Current/Summation/Generator Potential, all that at the moment.
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    (Original post by SarahFletcher)
    Hopefully we'll be able to pull through. I'm really hoping not to have to resit this again in the summer with F114 to do aswell.

    I'm struggling with Action Potential/Local Current/Summation/Generator Potential, all that at the moment.
    My favourite part ^_^. You need any help on it?
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    (Original post by The Illuminati)
    My favourite part ^_^. You need any help on it?
    can you describe the negative feedback loop in detail for the hormonal (endocrine) system?

    The nervous systems simple as they give us examples from receptor to effector but in hormonal e.g. adrenaline, they just say the adrenal gland releases adrenaline in response to stress.
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    (Original post by The Illuminati)
    My favourite part ^_^. You need any help on it?
    I'm finding it difficult putting it all together. I think I just need some notes other than the explanation from the textbook, just so I can look at it from another point of view. Usually we have worksheets and photocopies from other books but we've not had any for this.

    I hate it when I have a mental block on a topic!

    For example, in the book I'm getting confused with the different channels. You've got the sodium/potassium ion channels, voltage gated channels - then it seperately refers to gated channels and I'm not sure if they're refering to the voltage gated ones.

    Actually, I think I just need to start reading the whole thing back from the start :X
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    (Original post by jmillslittle)
    can you describe the negative feedback loop in detail for the hormonal (endocrine) system?

    The nervous systems simple as they give us examples from receptor to effector but in hormonal e.g. adrenaline, they just say the adrenal gland releases adrenaline in response to stress.
    er when co2 is high/ph is low/o2 is low adrenaline is released to counteract this by increasing the heart rate. co2 is what makes the blood ph low (co2 reacts with water to form h+), increased heart rate means that more co2 moves to the alveoli where it diffuses and is exhaled.
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    (Original post by SarahFletcher)
    I'm finding it difficult putting it all together. I think I just need some notes other than the explanation from the textbook, just so I can look at it from another point of view. Usually we have worksheets and photocopies from other books but we've not had any for this.

    I hate it when I have a mental block on a topic!

    For example, in the book I'm getting confused with the different channels. You've got the sodium/potassium ion channels, voltage gated channels - then it seperately refers to gated channels and I'm not sure if they're refering to the voltage gated ones.

    Actually, I think I just need to start reading the whole thing back from the start :X
    I can send you my notes on it. they're quite detailed.
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    (Original post by The Illuminati)
    I can send you my notes on it. they're quite detailed.
    That would be very useful if it's not too much hassle. Don't worry if not!
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    (Original post by SarahFletcher)
    That would be very useful if it's not too much hassle. Don't worry if not!
    Basically imagine if someone touches you. This is call called a stimulus. A stimulus is an energy change in the surroundings. Another stimulus could be change in temperature or change in light intensity.
    On your skin and other parts of your body you have sensory cells called sensory receptors which respond to energy changes in the environment such as change in pressure. They are also called transducer molecules as they convert one form of energy to another. I.e. change in pressure on your skin is converted into electrical energy in the form of a nerve impulse. This is done by receptor cells. The greater the pressure applied (greater the stimulus) the more Na ion channels open in the receptor cells, not in the neurone.

    If enough Na ion channels open they will initiate enough generator potentials which will reach the threshold potential and only then are the voltage gated Na ion channels open. These voltage gated Na ion channels only respond to changes in the potential difference across the membrane. If the membrane depolarises due to Na ion channels open due to a stimulus the potential difference across the membrane changes, if it changes enough to reach the threshold potential only then are the voltage gated Na ion channels open on the Dendron of the sensory neurone.

    In summary the normal Na ion channels on the receptor molecules open due to a stimulus.
    The voltage gated Na ion channels only open if the potential difference across the membrane changes due to Na ions diffusing into the cell from the surrounding tissue fluid via the normal Na ion channels.
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    (Original post by undertaker1)
    Basically imagine if someone touches you. This is call called a stimulus. A stimulus is an energy change in the surroundings. Another stimulus could be change in temperature or change in light intensity.
    On your skin and other parts of your body you have sensory cells called sensory receptors which respond to energy changes in the environment such as change in pressure. They are also called transducer molecules as they convert one form of energy to another. I.e. change in pressure on your skin is converted into electrical energy in the form of a nerve impulse. This is done by receptor cells. The greater the pressure applied (greater the stimulus) the more Na ion channels open in the receptor cells, not in the neurone.

    If enough Na ion channels open they will initiate enough generator potentials which will reach the threshold potential and only then are the voltage gated Na ion channels open. These voltage gated Na ion channels only respond to changes in the potential difference across the membrane. If the membrane depolarises due to Na ion channels open due to a stimulus the potential difference across the membrane changes, if it changes enough to reach the threshold potential only then are the voltage gated Na ion channels open on the Dendron of the sensory neurone.

    In summary the normal Na ion channels on the receptor molecules open due to a stimulus.
    The voltage gated Na ion channels only open if the potential difference across the membrane changes due to Na ions diffusing into the cell from the surrounding tissue fluid via the normal Na ion channels.
    Ahh that's also very helpful! It's always clearer when someone else explains it in their own words. Those were the bits I was getting most confused with, so thank you.
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    ooh never knew there was such a big thread for this exam alone :mmm: just did a past paper, there was a rather intriguing question on a seal :rofl:
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    (Original post by manic_fuzz)
    ooh never knew there was such a big thread for this exam alone :mmm: just did a past paper, there was a rather intriguing question on a seal :rofl:
    :hi:

    :laugh: I know! I did that paper :mmm: That was quite awkward, I spent like 5 minutes just looking at the drawings to see the differences before I saw 2 and then I just wrote about high lactate tolerance or something for the last mark :laugh:
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    :hi:

    :laugh: I know! I did that paper :mmm: That was quite awkward, I spent like 5 minutes just looking at the drawings to see the differences before I saw 2 and then I just wrote about high lactate tolerance or something for the last mark :laugh:
    Hey!

    :yep: Yeah there were loads of answers that could've been given weren't there? I'm not too good at doing past papers, I always get bored of writing everything and just end up looking at the answers
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    (Original post by manic_fuzz)
    Hey!

    :yep: Yeah there were loads of answers that could've been given weren't there? I'm not too good at doing past papers, I always get bored of writing everything and just end up looking at the answers
    :mmm: Glad to see I'm not the only one like that :laugh:
    Although if the paper is quite tough, I force myself to try to do it first :p:
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    (Original post by Revent)
    :mmm: Glad to see I'm not the only one like that :laugh:
    Although if the paper is quite tough, I force myself to try to do it first :p:
    Heheheh, well I should be going to sleep now, 6 hours of lessons tomorrow (including double biology )
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    (Original post by manic_fuzz)
    Heheheh, well I should be going to sleep now, 6 hours of lessons tomorrow (including double biology )
    G'night :p:
    (study leave )
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    Hey... ermm this is the first time im doing this exam! got any tips of advice of what to look out for? and any on goh any predictions? itd be great !
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    This, M2, and S2 on the same day. Life is good. /sarcasm =(
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    1)Someone write paragraph on respiratory substrates please.
    2) What are oxireductase enzymes and can someone tell me a little about them?
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    I've been revising for the past month and it seems to me like nothing is going in, despite having worked my butt off
    my teacher asked me what i was stuck on and i said 'all the big words'... yep I'm an idiot that cant get her head around the stupid KEYWORDS
    never have i EVER felt so stupid in my life D:
 
 
 
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