Was Tony Blair one of &quot;the greatest&quot;?

jammyd

Isn't Blair the only PM to have 2 terms in office. If so, i'd say that was quite significant.

The only Labor PM.

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ben2111

From a non-British point of view: no. I think we expected too much. His behaviour when it came to the Iraq war made him one of the most hated persons in Germany... Not that it should bother anybody though... But I was also very disappointed! :frown:

On the other hand it made him one of the most popular men in the most powerfull country in the world :tongue:

Why would the German people hate him for doing something on his principles that he beleived in, surley Germans know something about mistakes? :s

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Well, I don't think he has much to sing about. His domestic policies have been an unmitigated shambles.

Despite splashing out vast gobs of cash there has been no marked improvement in the NHS or education.

His transport policy is a sham. He has failed to address spiralling crime and hasn't a clue how to tackle the immigration issue.

Domestically, a flop.

His international policy seems to revolve only around giving Bush great head, and sending troops to wars without any clear consensus of British opinion, and without basic equipment for the job.

The man is an unmitigated disgrace and should fall on his sword before someone knives him in the back.

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Howard

Well, I don't think he has much to sing about. His domestic policies have been an unmitigated shambles.

Despite splashing out vast gobs of cash there has been no marked improvement in the NHS or education.

His transport policy is a sham. He has failed to address spiralling crime and hasn't a clue how to tackle the immigration issue.

Domestically, a flop.

His international policy seems to revolve only around giving Bush great head, and sending troops to wars without any clear consensus of British opinion, and without basic equipment for the job.

The man is an unmitigated disgrace and should fall on his sword before someone knives him in the back.

There has been a marked improvement in the NHS and education if you actually look at the figures in more detail.

The transport policy is ok but the tories have alot to answer for there.

Apart from violent crime its improved since labour have been in power, the immigration issue is only an issue for the Sun.

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LPK

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elpaw

I'm not talking about whether TB was a good prime minister, whether you liked him or not, i'm just asking, is he one of "the greatest"? What this means is will he be remembered in say 20, 50 or 100 years time? in the future, if people are asked "can you name a past prime minister", will he be one of the more popular options? (if you think about it, if you asked someone now, the most popular options would be Churchill and Thatcher, hardly anyone (with general knowledge) would mention Asquith or Chamberlain - so Churchill and Thatcher are one of "the greatest"). Will Tony Blair be remembered in the future?

i dont reckon he will be

Reply 12

ben2111

Muffle

On the other hand it made him one of the most popular men in the most powerfull country in the world :tongue:

Why would the German people hate him for doing something on his principles that he beleived in, surley Germans know something about mistakes? :s

I know ;-) But honestly, do you still believe he did it for principles? I mean the way all the reports about weapons were faked says a lot about how much they wanted the war!

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ben2111

I know ;-) But honestly, do you still believe he did it for principles? I mean the way all the reports about weapons were faked says a lot about how much they wanted the war!

I think that says alot about the American Government (not americans) however I think the fact that he has staked his reputation on this issue means he did beleive in it and did do it on principle. On hindsight it would obviously be better to do it with UN approval but theres no telling how long that would take. I wasnt aware of any major questions about the integrity of intellegince just that it wasnt as conclusive as some reports made out?

If he was lying then he will probably be gone by the end of the week, if he really didnt beleive in the issue then I doubt he would have let it come to this?

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Muffle

There has been a marked improvement in the NHS and education if you actually look at the figures in more detail.

The transport policy is ok but the tories have alot to answer for there.

Apart from violent crime its improved since labour have been in power, the immigration issue is only an issue for the Sun.

Let's take one at a time.

Total Robbery (Source: Police 999.com)

1997/1998 62,652
2001/2002 121,375 28

Erm........that's a 100% increase over a 4-5 year period isn't it?

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Howard

Let's take one at a time.

Total Robbery (Source: Police 999.com)

1997/1998 62,652
2001/2002 121,375 28

Erm........that's a 100% increase over a 4-5 year period isn't it?

Look at the figures in total, its impossible to deal with crime in its totallity. Governments tend to pour money into the worst effected areas (ie- where most deaths, or damage is being done) then when those areas are good they move to the ones that have gotten worse and the process repeats. It doesent work, but there isnt any better way :tongue:

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Daveo

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Blair doesn't even run this country anymore! He is not the most powerful man! He is tryin to make his place in history and is making a good job of that whilst destroying our country.

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Daveo

Blair doesn't even run this country anymore! He is not the most powerful man! He is tryin to make his place in history and is making a good job of that whilst destroying our country.

What are you talking about, we wouldnt have gone to war witout him, top-up fees are about to be passed (probably)? I think hes still in power.

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