Should smoking be banned FULL STOP?!

What?!

Having a mere drink....your setting double standards.

I agree it should be banned in public places, but totally, no way. If smoking is banned totally, so should alcohol.

Yes smoking harms others, but in the long term. No one gets cancer from inhaling second hand smoke for 30minutes....whereas if someone is drunk, it only takes a minute or two for a fight to kick off, someone getting injured, or killed, and disrupting the peace of everyone around.

If smoking were banned completely, and alcohol wasnt, i vow that i would personally hunt down Tony Blair and kill him.

Impossibility? You mean, because it interferes with too many peoples "way of life"....

What about the smokers way of life?....

Im all for banning it in public places, but in your own home, that is just absurd! Telling people what they can and can not do in their own homes is wrong. Of course, there has to be a limit, but cmon, smoking in your own home harms no one but those who reside there. If you smoke around your children, so be it, your just selfish (my dad smokes outside, because he isnt selfish and does actually care about my health)

And no, excepting double standards from the government is something people shouldnt have to put up with. Honestly, if they did ban smoking completely, as i've said, i would personally kill Tony.B

OK. I thought you were for banning it in your own home, my bad.

Just been reading through this thread, and as someone else said, im suprised how many people are actually in favor for banning smoking entirely! Of course, the majority of this forum consists of kids/people with half a brain, but still, pledging themselves to the idea that telling people they cant smoke is worrying....

Again, i agree about a ban in public places, but in your own home...that really is dictatorship. I can understand how annoying smoke is, but if its your own home you should be allowd too, and anyone who thinks differently about that is stupid.

Laws are created to help society and protect them - supposedly.. I completely agree that a full ban should be made and why not? Its not like smoking is a human right, its a choice. But its a human right to be able to live.

And i dont want to be subjected to smoke which threatens MY health just so the government has money to waste.. yes waste!! Let me not go into Brown's econ policy..!

The pronoun "you" is not specified at anyone here obviously, im referring generally to smokers who like to huff and puff in public places especially small cafes where there is barely enough room to breathe normally!

Think of how many millions would not have to be subjected to smoke and how much money would be saved on the NHS trying to help people due to smoking-related diseases.

You don't have to go near smoke if you don't want to - go back to your house. Don't sit somewhere and deny the rights of everyone around you on private property.

You don't want to have to breathe smoke in cafes? Then go to a non-smoking cafe. Don't subject others to your ideals if they don't share them.

They recently banned smoking in my University union (warwick) and from now on it seems that we'll only be allowed to smoke in our rooms. Warwick is just campus, no city around. So where are we supposed to go if we want to smoke with other smokers around? At least leave us a small cafe somewhere...

Why don't you just see those smokers without smoking? I'm sure you do, so it isn't a big deal. It isn't as like smoking is the main part of socialising.

You are very lucky to be able to smoke in your room, most universities do not allow this.

Firstly, leave God out of this! Secondly, how is smoking a part of property? Your smoke is your property, is that what you mean? If so, keep it to yourself! Why should it interfere with me, smoke at home!
Whats suicide to do with this? Why would i propose a law vs suicide? It doesnt affect anyone if someone wants to kill themselves, and it doesnt harm anyone!!

How lovely! If i went to someones house and they were smoking I have no right to tell them to stop, obviously. Why should I have to go to a different cafe because people enjoy killing themselves and others around them? You're aware of the dangers of smoking by now, so why subject others to them? How am i denying people the rights of people on "private property" - they're denying MY right to live healthily!!

Really? Funnily enough if this was just MY view then why is there such an issue?

But doesn't that work the other way around too. My right to sit on private property is being denied by people who smoke. What if there are no non-smoking cafe in the area (obviously not my location but other places). Don't subject is to your ideals of smoking, we don't share them. What you have said works both ways. You cannot imply that your rights are more important than others. What are the positives of smoking? There aren't any really, or at least none substantial.

most universities aren't in the middle of nowhere. lol. Don't get me wrong I love warwick.

What about the "addictive" part of smoking. Say I can do the step now and stop smoking. Can other's really follow? even if they want to?

and about a previous comment, there are no benefits for eating chocolate either but that doesn't stop it from being considered one of man's best creations for some people.

If u haven't smoked, you cannot really tell why people like smoking right? I'd love to do it even if i wasn't addicted. (well if you neglect the fact that it becomes deadly).

Oh and for those idiots saying "You can do what you like on private property"....so are you fine with people injecting themselves with heroin? Are you fine with people committing suicide? Are you fine with people raping young children? Please answer this, I don't understand how you can say people can do what they like on their own property. The law is there to protect everyone....

If you take drugs, you affect all those people in less developed nations harvesting the opium.
If you commit suicide, you affect your family and friends when you die.
If you rape young children, you affect both the children, their families, and the community.
If you smoke, you affect your health and therefore take up NHS time and money by getting new lungs or treatment for cancer.

I'm fine with people smoking! Seriously I am, as long as they realise they're doing it to themselves, they're not harming anyone else, and when they get cancer (which most likely they will) that they're going to pay for the treatment.

So in this society we shouldn't be allowed to commit suicide, smoke, drink, buy drugs off lesser developed nations...?

The rape thing is totally different. Rape is a crime because it infringes on the rights of others. Smoking and suicide don't.

Surely the "victims" of passive smoking aren't victims if they're choosing to damage themselves in this way...

It's simple....

You can smoke in your own house. Nowhere else.

But..

You are banned from keeping children in your home, who would be harmed by passive smoking. Therefore if you have kids, they will be put in foster care.
You are banned from keeping pets, who would be harmed by passive smoking.
You are banned from using any NHS facilities (and there would be certain tax exemptions so that you're not paying as much as anyone else)

See...it's THAT SIMPLE!!!

Oh and for those idiots saying "You can do what you like on private property"....so are you fine with people injecting themselves with heroin? Are you fine with people committing suicide? Are you fine with people raping young children? Please answer this, I don't understand how you can say people can do what they like on their own property. The law is there to protect everyone....

If you take drugs, you affect all those people in less developed nations harvesting the opium.
If you commit suicide, you affect your family and friends when you die.
If you rape young children, you affect both the children, their families, and the community.
If you smoke, you affect your health and therefore take up NHS time and money by getting new lungs or treatment for cancer.

I'm fine with people smoking! Seriously I am, as long as they realise they're doing it to themselves, they're not harming anyone else, and when they get cancer (which most likely they will) that they're going to pay for the treatment.