The Student Room Group

Never start vaping, says 12-year-old girl with lung damage




A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.

Sarah Griffin had asthma and was a heavy vaper when she was rushed to hospital with breathing problems a month ago.

Her mum Mary told the BBC she feared she was going to lose her daughter.

The UK government has announced plans to restrict the marketing and sale of vapes targeted at children.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the proposals - which are open for public consultation for the next eight weeks - would "reverse the worrying rise in youth vaping" by making vapes less colourful and less appealing to children.

Read more here.

Scroll to see replies

Vaping is illegal for under 18s anyway isn’t it? So how was she getting hold of them
Original post by Andrew97
Vaping is illegal for under 18s anyway isn’t it? So how was she getting hold of them


Article says she bought them from shops with no age checks.

Given that she says she started at age nine, I am at a bit of a loss with how she afforded her nasty habit.
She should be taken away from her parents and put in care. This is actual neglect.
(edited 4 months ago)
Original post by Admit-One
Article says she bought them from shops with no age checks.

Given that she says she started at age nine, I am at a bit of a loss with how she afforded her nasty habit.

Massive failure from parents, shop keepers etc
Original post by Andrew97
Vaping is illegal for under 18s anyway isn’t it? So how was she getting hold of them


As someone said, shops are selling to young children, probably because they're the biggest buyers. The local newsagents by me now has a large stand like the size of a vending machine right in front of you as you walk in and it's really colourful, full of nice flavours. It's appalling to see. I stand behind Rishi bringing in legislation to stop them being made so colourful as they're appealing to children.

Vaping was initially sold as an almost harmless thing to do compared to smoking, with very little to no legislation because it's a fairly new product, so it's not surprising that it's now become an epidemic in its own right. I think vapes should be available on prescription only for long time smokers who are trying to quit smoking.
Original post by -Eirlys-
As someone said, shops are selling to young children, probably because they're the biggest buyers. The local newsagents by me now has a large stand like the size of a vending machine right in front of you as you walk in and it's really colourful, full of nice flavours. It's appalling to see. I stand behind Rishi bringing in legislation to stop them being made so colourful as they're appealing to children.

Vaping was initially sold as an almost harmless thing to do compared to smoking, with very little to no legislation because it's a fairly new product, so it's not surprising that it's now become an epidemic in its own right. I think vapes should be available on prescription only for long time smokers who are trying to quit smoking.

Remember that at one point in history, smoking was seen as ''completely safe'' because it hadn't been around long enough for the long-term consequences to be seen. Vaping will be similar I imagine - give it 20-30 years and we'll begin to see what years of ''safer'' vaping did.
Original post by frauschlange
Remember that at one point in history, smoking was seen as ''completely safe'' because it hadn't been around long enough for the long-term consequences to be seen. Vaping will be similar I imagine - give it 20-30 years and we'll begin to see what years of ''safer'' vaping did.

Except it took considerably longer for people to realise smoking was dangerous, about 2000 years.
Nowadays, people know inhaling anything can be risky or cause damage. Vaping was intentionally marketed as being like 98% safer than smoking when it was first released, and it started becoming more popular in the UK in 2014 (though it definitely feels like it's become super popular in the past 2 years, at least to me). I think most people probably knew there were risks, but no-one listens unless something bad happens and now there's cases appearing to provide evidence for their argument that vaping isn't safe. I'm just surprised that the government seems to have not considered these vapes earlier and implemented legislation about them sooner.
Original post by -Eirlys-



A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.

Sarah Griffin had asthma and was a heavy vaper when she was rushed to hospital with breathing problems a month ago.

Her mum Mary told the BBC she feared she was going to lose her daughter.

The UK government has announced plans to restrict the marketing and sale of vapes targeted at children.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the proposals - which are open for public consultation for the next eight weeks - would "reverse the worrying rise in youth vaping" by making vapes less colourful and less appealing to children.

Read more here.

Yet another sign of broken Britain
Original post by -Eirlys-
Except it took considerably longer for people to realise smoking was dangerous, about 2000 years.
Nowadays, people know inhaling anything can be risky or cause damage. Vaping was intentionally marketed as being like 98% safer than smoking when it was first released, and it started becoming more popular in the UK in 2014 (though it definitely feels like it's become super popular in the past 2 years, at least to me). I think most people probably knew there were risks, but no-one listens unless something bad happens and now there's cases appearing to provide evidence for their argument that vaping isn't safe. I'm just surprised that the government seems to have not considered these vapes earlier and implemented legislation about them sooner.

IMO sales of vapes should be completely banned for everyone, same for cigarettes. The only way to get hold of vaping products should be an NHS prescription for people who are actively trying to end a smoking addicion. Though, I do recognise that underground sales will persist regardless and that usually becomes more of an organised crime issue.
(edited 4 months ago)
Original post by frauschlange
IMO sales of vapes should be completely banned for everyone, same for cigarettes. The only way to get hold of vaping products should be an NHS prescription for people who are actively trying to end a smoking addicion. Though, I do recognise that underground sales will persist regardless and that usually becomes more of an organised crime issue.


Yes I agree about the prescription only, though people abuse prescriptions too. I wonder what the next craze will be when vapes decline in popularity.
In the school I work in there are at least 50 children that we know of who vape.

Parents are well aware. Parents usually are the ones supporting the habit and allow the child to vape at home. Or, their response is "I know, terrible isn't it?" and do nothing.

There isn't room in the care system to accommodate all these children (said for the person above who suggested these children are taken off the parents).
In my school there was a y7 girl who brought alcoholic beverages and vape to school, and when our school found out, she was kicked out from school immediately. My parents always taught me never smoke or drink too much alcohol even if I grow up. I think we educate our children enough about these kind of things already, that person who sold to her should get sued.
(edited 4 months ago)
Reply 13
Original post by Lemonadestars
In my school there was a y7 girl who brought alcoholic beverages and vape to school, and when our school found out, she was kicked out from school immediately. My parents always taught me never smoke or drink too much alcohol even if I grow up. I think we educate our children enough about these kind of things already, that person who sold to her should get sued.


Do you think you will grow up?
Perhaps shops need to be held liable for selling to underage customers, much like with cigarettes where there is a significant financial penalty if caught.

The thing with vapes the long term health risks are unknown & as such don’t have the same scare factor (compared to cigs) and the flavorings make them much nicer & easier to consume especially youngsters.

Obviously they are unhealthy. However young, immature & impressionable kids make bad choices. It will always happen- just need regulations to make it harder for kids to do this. Pretty much the only useful thing vapes do is help smokers quit cigarettes however I suspect we will find all sorts of future health issues in the future when they have been around for more significant period of time. Frankly wouldn’t be surprised if some of the flavored & heated ones ended up being carcinogenic but certainly pose a risk to all sorts or respiratory health areas I imagine.
(edited 4 months ago)
Original post by 04MR17
In the school I work in there are at least 50 children that we know of who vape.

Parents are well aware. Parents usually are the ones supporting the habit and allow the child to vape at home. Or, their response is "I know, terrible isn't it?" and do nothing.

There isn't room in the care system to accommodate all these children (said for the person above who suggested these children are taken off the parents).

The care system is stretched thin as is post covid & those involved with social work generally have much bigger fish to fry then vaping.

I think this sort of thing comes into the general culture we foster as a society (including all parents, families, schools, clubs & anywhere else kids are). Social services need to prioritize more significant issues (obviously this particular example with a child in hospital is an exception but i mean with vaping in general).
I see/hear a lot of people asking "how could shopkeepers sell vapes to kids?" all the time. A lot of shopkeepers feel they don't have the choice - decent income in places like tiny corner shops comes from disposable vapes. Times that by competition etc. of every other corner shop and if you don't sell you won't get the custom. This doesn't make it okay at all but I understand why in the capitalist society people stoop to that level. Money and ethics rarely correlate :s-smilie:
Original post by Castrovalva
I see/hear a lot of people asking "how could shopkeepers sell vapes to kids?" all the time. A lot of shopkeepers feel they don't have the choice - decent income in places like tiny corner shops comes from disposable vapes. Times that by competition etc. of every other corner shop and if you don't sell you won't get the custom. This doesn't make it okay at all but I understand why in the capitalist society people stoop to that level. Money and ethics rarely correlate :s-smilie:

Yeah, at the end of the day their income is selling goods and they are being asked to take steps to avoid sales... obvious what their motives are.

Oddly reminded me of a shopkeeper years ago who re Fireworks would boast 'he didn't give a ****' about who he sold them to, then some of the local ferals taped a big bunch of them together and lobbed them behind his shop counter and jeez you've never heard someone complain so loudly about kids, discipline state of the UK ect just because it was HIM out of £1000s in damages, baby :tongue:
Original post by StriderHort
.

Oddly reminded me of a shopkeeper years ago who re Fireworks would boast 'he didn't give a ****' about who he sold them to, then some of the local ferals taped a big bunch of them together and lobbed them behind his shop counter and jeez you've never heard someone complain so loudly about kids, discipline state of the UK ect just because it was HIM out of £1000s in damages, baby :tongue:

Another sign of broken Britain. The tories are soft on crime and the causes of crime. Only Labour has the solutions.

There are stories that prisons are almost at capacity, so low level crimes could see a change to community service or other punishments rather than jail term.
Original post by Wired_1800
Another sign of broken Britain. The tories are soft on crime and the causes of crime. Only Labour has the solutions.

There are stories that prisons are almost at capacity, so low level crimes could see a change to community service or other punishments rather than jail term.


Ah, as much as I despise present Tories, this example was actually back in the last Labour government...

Quick Reply

Latest