im making a fortune sports gambling but what should i do with life? Will bookies ban.

All you are doing in betting is using statistical analysis and your own judgement. Anyone can do that, the only thing is how well based on their experience or system. Football betting is essentially like buying and selling stocks, except, to me is slightly more risky-i trust the companies rather than football clubs hehe (although investors of football clubs do have stakes in to not risk themselves losing out)

I believe the last bit of that to be very true, I think most lads on a Sat eve love to tell everyone in the pub Sat night that "Spurs or Everton let me down for £1200" etc It's like the next day hangover, same principle. "Oh I'm dying, someone bring me food" basically it boils down to attention seeking.

Moggis, you say you're one of the best, is your market mainly WDW or goals? A stat I look at is previous result and the bounce back factor after a loss, I'm convinced Arsenal will win well tomorrow night after the West Brom result and the poor result away in Euro last, you agree?

Ok there's a couple of points to be made from your post.

You say "all" you are doing is using statistical analysis and your own judgement as if there is nothing to it.

Yet 97% of bettors fail to make any profit!

Statistics are very very hard to use profitably in sports betting because most stats are meaningless and those that aren't have usually been accounted for in the prices.

Also your post ignores the point I tried to get across to the OP that even if you have discovered an edge of sorts you still have to deal with the immense psychological problems that occur when you have losing runs.

It's almost impossible for anyone to make a living betting on football because of this.

(Trading is quite another matter but even that has become much harder than it was a few years ago.)

Unless they bet on long term markets that is, which they don't.

When arguing with me, you need good logic to convince me of your opinion.
Yeah, that is all you are doing. What else can you do?
Who said 97% of betters fail to make a profit? Saying an outrageous statistic like that needs hard evidence.
"most stats are meaningless"? - I don't agree. Every stat has a impact on the final outcome, however small its impact you can't ignore its impact just because you're lazy or want to.
How big a losing run are you talking about? If you are serious about any sort of trading, you a) have cash reserved so you never go truly bankrupt and b) have your cash spread. Say you make 3 bad bets, and they all go kaput, you are badly done. If you have 10 and 3 go wrong, you're still laughing. All depends on the odds you receive.
Are you a better? (I remember some guy in this thread said he was)
To me your mentality is pretty lame, less of a realist and more of a pessimist.
And, you don't only make money via long term markets... short term do as well, it's all about the trend, and hey, a bit of luck.
It is all about the number of people doing a thing that effects profitability, but I don't understand your point of how more people betting affects the odds? Unless they start winning (which according to you they don't) then the bookies don't care. You might be taking money from them, but they still net profit.
Okay it probably is you who is the better.
I don't even truly know how smart or good at this game you are, but from what I see, it seems like you aren't so much (why else would you be here... making £1m in a season, bs much?)

..me?

I dont work and make money sports gambling. Ive made a system myself and am raking in the cash.

Of course form is temporary and i will need to keep on top as teams fortunes change etc..but with my system the form has been consistent for years so my system should not fail any time soon. Wont go into details and give away my secret but the type of bets i am making are bets based on results that have won consistently since begging of football history really, so it should never fail.

But how do i plan my life? I will sign of job seekers i guess and never need to look for or do work. But then people ask why i have money and things but never work it seems dodgy?

But I dont want to share i win money gambling as people will think (well most think i got lucky and will go bust i guess) but people will want to know what i do and how i win it...and if bookies find out that i win all the time they will stop me betting? If I share with others then bookies will catch on.

So I need to keep it private?

But then so many questions why i never have job but always money?

I stay with parents atm as i was broke after uni but now I predict in year or 2 with savings or so i will buy nice house.

Will the house sellers question where i have money from as i pay in cash (no mortgage) and have no work history? I can share i win money from gambling?

I dont see how i can maintain this winning system without the bookies putting an end to it?

I try vary my bets with 10 different bookies online so they will not notice or care about my consistent wins...

so i have 2 problems.

1. Bookies stopping me betting
2. People being nosey about my life- no job but lots of money...

WOW .This post has made my week!

Far too much here for me to go into now and I'd like to take a while to consider any reply anyway.

However I will answer the question as to why I'm here.


Ok. Originally I came onto this site for one reason and one reason only.

Every single time I read about betting on the Internet - whether on forums or on dedicated 'how to' sites,the information I read .........

........was counter to my own direct experience over many years!!

SO I wanted to find intelligent people in order to ask them a specific question.

I will repeat the question I asked.


" How much money do I need to win doing what I do before I will have amassed sufficient evidence to show that almost everything I read on the Internet pertaining to betting on football is either wrong or very misleading?"


Since no one answered my question and since almost no one on any gambling forum takes anything I say seriously ( or if they do they are belligerent) I have taken it upon myself to try to make £1 million in a season as I believe this would go a very long way to making me right.

And if I'm right I will then be in a position to help people.


As for your accusation of possible bs on my part, I most certainly have the proof that I came within 3 points of making £1 million profit last season.

The company was Ladbrokes and the bets in question were placed in September and the team that let me down was Burnley.

In fact if I had bet them merely to be relegated instead of to be bottom I would have made an overall profit of £700,000 last season.


In fact last season I beat my personal record of £221,000 by winning £257,000 from another bookie from one bet .



Cheers



Edit As to why I'm still here,why,this site is very entertaining.What can I say?

I am 44 and single and I have been gambling on the horses for 23 years but try as I might I only ever make about £70,000 a year on betting and I have been doing it for over 20 ywaers now and I feel thoroughly pissed off, I should have gone toi Uni and gone into banking or something, the problem is that I dont have any A-Levels, O-Levels Or G.C.S.E's.

I have only ever told one friend how I make money and I showed him my system in great detail and it is simplicity itself, it takes me 30 minutes a day and I can do it from almost anywhere in the world with an Internet connection, the one person I did tell, instead of copying me, he just kept borrowing money off me instead so I never tell anyone now, I have heard from some of my friends that people assume I am a very clever drug dealer (Lol)

My advice is not to get into professional gambling, it might pay the bills but I think it would be better to get a good degree and go into the City or something and earn some really decent money instead and then you have friends that you can talk to about moneymaking.

I was happier when I was 16 to 21 and just did a series of dead end Jobs and my only goal in life was to get Drunk at the weekend, now I live a very boring life indeed, No drinking, No fast driving and I cant be bothered to go abroad on holiday anymore as I have been to most countries that I have ever thought about going to, now I am just bored and thinking of retiring, I only spend about £200 a week on myself, the only benefit is that I dont have the taxman to worry about, in 20 years I have been investigated twice, It's very difficult to convince the Taxman that all of my Income is Taxfree, when I first got investigated I offered to proof my Bets in advance to him, but he turned me down so I had to hire a Solicitor and had witness statements taken and proofed Bets by sending them in postmarked envelopes to my Solicitors office, Now I use Betfair and Betdaq so it is easier to prove.

Sometimes I do tell strangers what I do for a living, most dont believe me, some ask me for money, which I sometimes give, one person who I showed my Betfair account to got really angry and hit me and accused me of being a thieving liar, my advice is not to go into professional gambling as it is hard to make friends. I wish I had gone to Uni, got a Job and had friends

Robert.

Hmmm. You know I think that s not really it.

It's not attention seeking per se.

I believe the main reason men bet on football is to try to prove either that they know a lot about football or that they are smart.Or both.


As for your question I don't actually bet on 90 minute markets as I think it's way too hard to make a significant profit for the reasons I have tried to explain on this thread.

I bet on long term markets.

Long term markets are FAR easier to beat than short term markets and that's why I'm ' one of the best' as you quote.

I'm only able to be one of the best because almost all other bettors insist on competing against each other on 90 minute markets!

When I finally get competition I may well find I'm not nearly so good. In the meantime,believe it or not,I'm having a serious attempt at making £1 million this season in order to show that I'm right about long term markets.

Last season I missed out on such an amount by 3 points.


As for the Arsenal question well of course Arsenal are class and so a surprise defeat shouldn't have any discernible affect but regardless you are probably right not to overreact to short term results in general.

How long have you been gambling for?

How much are you up or down overall? what do you do with the rest of your time?

Long term betting? So you're saying I should stick money on barca, Bayern, Celtic and Leicester to win the leagues?

WOW .This post has made my week!

Far too much here for me to go into now and I'd like to take a while to consider any reply anyway.

However I will answer the question as to why I'm here.


Ok. Originally I came onto this site for one reason and one reason only.

Every single time I read about betting on the Internet - whether on forums or on dedicated 'how to' sites,the information I read .........

........was counter to my own direct experience over many years!!

SO I wanted to find intelligent people in order to ask them a specific question.

I will repeat the question I asked.


" How much money do I need to win doing what I do before I will have amassed sufficient evidence to show that almost everything I read on the Internet pertaining to betting on football is either wrong or very misleading?"


Since no one answered my question and since almost no one on any gambling forum takes anything I say seriously ( or if they do they are belligerent) I have taken it upon myself to try to make £1 million in a season as I believe this would go a very long way to making me right.

And if I'm right I will then be in a position to help people.


As for your accusation of possible bs on my part, I most certainly have the proof that I came within 3 points of making £1 million profit last season.

The company was Ladbrokes and the bets in question were placed in September and the team that let me down was Burnley.

In fact if I had bet them merely to be relegated instead of to be bottom I would have made an overall profit of £700,000 last season.


In fact last season I beat my personal record of £221,000 by winning £257,000 from another bookie from one bet .



Cheers



Edit As to why I'm still here,why,this site is very entertaining.What can I say?

Haha, I totally understand. I'm struggling to generate a suitable reply (past midnight!).
I would love to hear more about your experiences by being a football gambler. Like if you were ever up for doing a traineeship lol.
I'm quite interested in pursuing economics and yeah, price falls/rises in markets, understanding why things happen the way they do is where my curiosity lies.
I think most things can really be predicted with a very high accuracy, you just need to have the data, and be able to analyse it and interpret the results and then apply your cash in!
Maybe being tired has made me all sentimental and mellow, but we all do wish for your success.
IDK what you have said/evidence you provided for everything the internet suggesting about the internet being not true (would be interesting to see what your counter-evidence is). also idk what even is the "method" that most people use (haven't gambled ever)
I don't truly understand what you mean by coming 3 points short? Does that mean if the team you bet on gained 3 points more, they would have won a league or something, and thus the bookies would have increased your pay-out by whichever factor?
For some reason (I don't know why) I do take you seriously now. Wish you the best of success and if you have any general tips or something for a beginner in this whole "field" that you'd be willing to share, PM me thanks.
I do have an interest, just don't know where to start really :P

"In fact last season I beat my personal record of £221,000 by winning £257,000 from another bookie from one bet."

One bet? Must have been some stake or some acca. What's your thoughts on the rolling challenge? Some do quite good at it. You could be staking £1200/£1500 on 1 goal etc but doesn't it increase the chance of making money in your favour instead of hoping a certain team wins in 90 min?

Hard to believe this considering I've known people to be sports gubbed after being only £30 up. Care to provide any supporting screenshots?