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UNIT 3 - DEVELOPMENTS EDEXCEL A2 Religious Studies

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Original post by nicoupton
Hi there,

I know that the naturalistic fallacy is when you cannot move from a 'non-moral premise' to a 'moral conclusion'; the idea of the was mainly used in G E Moore's Emotivism, for example, if I made the statement 'I ought to give to charity', we cannot just assume that 'giving to charity is good', it is considered a jump in logic and therefore incorrect, I believe that the naturalistic fallacy is the 'is ought gap'


Do you mean intuitionism? Emotivism is Ayer. The naturalistic fallacy and the is-ought gap are essentially the same thing; they both criticize moving from a description of the world to a prescriptive moral statement because you need a principle in between the two to fill the gap - e.g. I see torture causes pain, painful acts are wrong, torture is wrong rather than I see torture causes pain, torture is wrong.
Original post by paradoxicalme
Do you mean intuitionism? Emotivism is Ayer. The naturalistic fallacy and the is-ought gap are essentially the same thing; they both criticize moving from a description of the world to a prescriptive moral statement because you need a principle in between the two to fill the gap - e.g. I see torture causes pain, painful acts are wrong, torture is wrong rather than I see torture causes pain, torture is wrong.


So sorry, of course I mean Intuitionism!! Oops, at least I got the wrong here not in the exam haha! But yes you are essentially right, they are the same thing. I'm quite comfortable in explain the Naturalistic Fallacy, but not really the whole theories of Intuitionism and Emotivism...any tips?
Original post by nicoupton
So sorry, of course I mean Intuitionism!! Oops, at least I got the wrong here not in the exam haha! But yes you are essentially right, they are the same thing. I'm quite comfortable in explain the Naturalistic Fallacy, but not really the whole theories of Intuitionism and Emotivism...any tips?


Here's my notes from an essay plan I'm doing:

Intuitionism: Derived from faults in Ethical Naturalism. Moral statements are propositional and good is objective, but good is undefinable due to it being a ‘simple notion’ analogised with yellow. We discern what is good by intuition i.e. ‘understanding immediately, without using reason’ it is self-evident to us intuitively. Emotivism: Moral statements are non-propositional since good is metaphysical and metaphysical statements fail the test of the Verification Principle. Therefore Ayer argues that all moral statements are merely matters of opinion (although influenced by the facts). Good = what the individual approves of; moral statements are only meaningful if ‘good’ comes to mean the observable property of ‘liked/approved of’.
Hoping for Oontological, Religious Langauge, and NML!
Hey,
if it asks for views you should refer to falisfication and verification using scholars such as Flew and Ayer. If it asks for types, it will usually give you a choice of three or four such as; Analogy, symbol, myths
If an OA question doesn't come up I'm legitimately going to cry
Going to do OA (or atheism if I have to), either Kant or NML (don't mind that much, would prefer Kant) and Meta-Ethics (I haven't seen anything to suggest ME won't come up).
Original post by paradoxicalme
If an OA question doesn't come up I'm legitimately going to cry
Going to do OA (or atheism if I have to), either Kant or NML (don't mind that much, would prefer Kant) and Meta-Ethics (I haven't seen anything to suggest ME won't come up).


Come on. What's the chances of OA not coming up?


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Original post by LoveEnglishDick
Come on. What's the chances of OA not coming up?


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Small, but possible. There could be an RE question and an Atheism question. It may have come up every year so far but that doesn't mean it will this year.
Absolutely hated this paper


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Original post by jadeetyraa
Absolutely hated this paper


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It was not the best at all. I'm pretty sure I messed up my ethical language essay and wasn't actually answering the question x.x

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I answered Religious Language, Deontology and Ethical Language. I thought Religious Language was pretty good (Verification & Falsification for part i, and then Symbolism and linked to Language Games for part ii). Deontology was decent as it was a generic essay, so nailed that. Ethical language was quite tricky, and as it had a quote using 'good', I just wrote about Moores Intuitionism for part i and related back to the question set, started to run out of time for ii, but did the best I could while answering the question at the same time.

Definatly not the easiest paper, but I did better than expected! I'm content :smile:
Answered all the questions but couldn't finish it all :frown:
I had 10 minutes left over at the end, but I finished the whole booklet?


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Totally bombed that exam, spent way too much time on Religious experience, rushed religious language and was in such a rush to finish Deontology that I began to repeat myself. Oh well!
How do you think you did? I did these too. What did you write for Religious Language and Ontological part a?
What did you do for rel lang????
Original post by Drunken Bard
Totally bombed that exam, spent way too much time on Religious experience, rushed religious language and was in such a rush to finish Deontology that I began to repeat myself. Oh well!
Original post by AbbieBatts
What did you do for rel lang????


First question spoke about how religious language is non-cognitive, vienna circle, logical positivism etc..

Second part is where I messed up though, I only talked about the language game theory and that was it, I felt I had to move onto Deontology when there was only about 25 minutes left of the exam.
Original post by Drunken Bard
First question spoke about how religious language is non-cognitive, vienna circle, logical positivism etc..

Second part is where I messed up though, I only talked about the language game theory and that was it, I felt I had to move onto Deontology when there was only about 25 minutes left of the exam.


Seems like you would have done fine for part ii if you explained it well enough! You will get credit for talking about language games, but I focused on Symbolism and how language games defended symbolism.
This paper was worded horribly, loads of people came out crying. Can't believe the life after death question and ethical language!!!!
I thought it was okay. Deontology and ethical language were worded in a kind of icky way but for EL I talked about how different cognitivists understand good (ethical naturalists, intuitionists) and did a tiny bit on non-cognitivism, then saved emotivism and prescriptivism for part 2 and talked about how they might 'solve' the dilemma by saying that we should understand good in a relative sense as corresponding to different people's views and beliefs. Deontology I found quite nice (just had to tailor to the wording of the question), and ontological argument had a nice part 1 and I didn't mind the atheism part 2 because I've done an OA&ACR question before. Overall I thought it could have been a lot worse :smile:

And I had 60 seconds to spare at the end which is more than I ever have :tongue:

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