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    I was watching the Napoli vs Sampdoria game last night and the standard of play from Napoli was very good despite having several key players out for the AFCON (e.g. Ghoulam, Koulibaly).

    Very entertaining game and from watching Napoli play I am convinced that they can beat the best PL teams. The game was also very entertaining to watch from an attacking sense... I think the Italian teams have moved forwards leaps and bounds in that respect.

    I think that Juve will inevitably win the title again but the chasing pack seem to have significantly improved.

    I am not entertained by the majority of PL games. The standard of play is generally quite poor.
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    As long as Totti isn't a retired player, then yes, it is underrated
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    It's more of a case of the Prem being massively overrated, Serie A, La Liga and Bundesliga have been catching up now.

    We seem to think it's the best league in the world for some reason, when clearly it's not.
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    Quality of football in the Prem is ****ing awful, I find it unwatchable. Only watch United matches these days. Can't even be bothered to tune in for the other 'big' games.
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Quality of football in the Prem is ****ing awful, I find it unwatchable. Only watch United matches these days. Can't even be bothered to tune in for the other 'big' games.
    Yes, I find that a good measure for how good the football is, is how far English teams are getting in the CL.

    When English teams a few years ago were doing better in the CL, the football was a lot more high quality.
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    (Original post by James.Carnell)
    I was watching the Napoli vs Sampdoria game last night and the standard of play from Napoli was very good despite having several key players out for the AFCON (e.g. Ghoulam, Koulibaly).

    Very entertaining game and from watching Napoli play I am convinced that they can beat the best PL teams. The game was also very entertaining to watch from an attacking sense... I think the Italian teams have moved forwards leaps and bounds in that respect.

    I think that Juve will inevitably win the title again but the chasing pack seem to have significantly improved.

    I am not entertained by the majority of PL games. The standard of play is generally quite poor.
    There was a time in which premier league teams were very dominant. You can see this from their record in the Champions League between 2005 and 2012. Out of 8 Champions League finals, 8 English teams were involved, winning in 2005, 2008, and 2012.
    There was a time in which Liverpool beat Real Madrid 4-0 (5-0 on aggregate).

    However, there has been an obvious decline from the season Ferguson retired. It just goes round in cycles. You could probably say that
    2005-2008: English period of dominance
    2012-2013: German dominance (Bayern and Dortmund)
    2013- Spanish dominance.
    Italian teams have had their years in between really with Milan and Inter. Juventus, bar one appearance in the final in 2015 haven't done much in the Champions League either.

    With Serie A and the Premier League, the styles are extremely different. Lower teams in the PL try to grind out victories which probably makes it boring.
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    We say this narrative but the big teams have got much better this year.

    Serie A is underrated, I wish I had enough time in the day to watch it but it's the second most interesting league to watch imo. I just wish that someone actually challenged Juventus for once though.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    We say this narrative but the big teams have got much better this year.

    Serie A is underrated, I wish I had enough time in the day to watch it but it's the second most interesting league to watch imo. I just wish that someone actually challenged Juventus for once though.
    I think AC Milan will challenge next season.
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    (Original post by James.Carnell)
    Yes, I find that a good measure for how good the football is, is how far English teams are getting in the CL.
    I'm sure I've said this before on here but, no, that's a rubbish guide. A team reaching the final of the Champions League proves nothing other than that team were good enough to get to the final. I don't see how you can extrapolate that to infer anything about the quality of the league they are in.

    Secondly, how do you quantify how good a league is? Do you judge it on the best teams in a league, the worst teams in a league or the mediocre teams. Is it all about quality of football regardless of of whether things are one-sided, or does how competitive a league is matter above all even if the quality of football isn't that great.

    Not mention the fact that I don't even know what "quality football" is.

    All in all, it's another stupid and pointless argument that some football fans seem to ove going round and round in circles on... As I am doing by repaeting some of what I've said before.
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    Definitely watched a few more foreign games this year, plus we got a dedicated Italian football thread
    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2088351
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    (Original post by HopelessMedic)
    It's more of a case of the Prem being massively overrated
    Yes, you have hit the nail on the head. Tbh the calcio hasn't greatly improved in recent years, just look at the european performances this season, with Roma unable to beat Porto, Inter losing to Beer-Sheva, S.Prague and Southampton, Juve struggling to draw with Lyon and Seville (they have improved but Barca, Real and Bayern would have no problems with them) and the list goes on time and again over the last 5 years or so with Italian sides unable to beat routine opponents, at worst being embarrassed. Apart from Juve none of the other teams in Serie A would beat the top 6 of the bpl and la liga.

    In terms of watching its a mixed bag as there has been more quality recently but this has been at the cost of defending. James made a point about Napoli being a good watch which they are, but that kind of Spanish type football has come at the cost of being tactically resolute and hard to score against which is why clubs like Napoli, Fiorentina, Lazio have done poorly in europe giving the impression of the calcio being a bad league which its not. On the other hand the tactical games I have seen e.g. Atalanta vs Torino they both cancelled each other out meaning possession was turning over hands very easily and to the person who doesn't watch Serie A regularly it look like both teams are poor technically. Where in fact it two teams who are well drilled and playing top class tactical football which isn't that enjoyable to the average bpl fan but is the type of football which will do well in europe.

    What has helped the calcio in being underrated is the recent failures of calcio exports e.g. Zaza, Immobile, Lamela, Darmian and the signing of bpl rejects/ older players such as Dzeko, Szczesny, Evra, Vidic etc giving the impression of a retirement league for a lower standard of player, where clubs in the Bundesliga are signing young players of similar standard making them look initiative. If truth be told it probably isn't underrated and the days of Milan and Inter being competitive domestically and in europe can't come soon enough.
 
 
 
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