Mickey Mouse degrees: what I think
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Original post by SparkleFace
Hey. I believe that Mickey Mouse degrees do exist but degrees that people believe are MM degrees I don’t agree with. Non Mickey Mouse degrees:
Bio
Chem
Physics
Maths
Geography
History
English literature
Mfl
Anything health related like nursing, optometry or medicine
Economics
Psychology
Sociology
Engineering courses
Architecture
Music
Arts (Although I think that any art student that wants to apply to uni are already very creative and bursting with ideas and I somewhat believe that they don’t require going to university, my aunt has said that uni drained her ideas and made art really boring and dreadful, but then again it’s the students choice)
Law
Philosophy
Social work
Computing
These are the degrees I can think of from the top of my head so if there’s more that aren’t MM degrees, sorry and I know that they aren’t I just can’t remember them.
What MM degrees are is what I think that you don’t get skills from and degrees that don’t increase salary and make you largely in debt and make you suffer. I do also think that universities shouldn’t accept students with lower than CCC although this is controversial (extenuating circumstances are another story). Things like music can be deeply complicated with the theory. I rather like to think that business and management degrees can be used as a masters rather than an undergraduate degree.
With degrees like English lit or geography, students can go into further research to get a phd OR they can enter jobs that require those skills such as politics, journalism, business and even teaching. So that’s why it’s a great degree. Languages help you with teaching and let’s you enter businesses although I also think that the language should be studied with something else for example economics although I do believe if someone wants to do an mfl, they can attend classes that don’t require £9000+ a year, but yet again, it’s the students choice.
Degrees like Egyptology shouldn’t exist, it’s just history that is specialised in the Egyptians and same again with American studies. It’s history and anthropology that’s specialised in America. There are a few more which I don’t see the point of either but again, it’s not the top of my head.
Also I think that if a student does a psychology degree and enters retail, then it can be called a MM degree as the student isn’t using the skills learnt, perhaps they don’t want to continue with their degree or because the job markets are too saturated (which then it isn’t their fault)
It might seem controversial but what do you think?
Ps- I think that polytechnics should be brought back
Bio
Chem
Physics
Maths
Geography
History
English literature
Mfl
Anything health related like nursing, optometry or medicine
Economics
Psychology
Sociology
Engineering courses
Architecture
Music
Arts (Although I think that any art student that wants to apply to uni are already very creative and bursting with ideas and I somewhat believe that they don’t require going to university, my aunt has said that uni drained her ideas and made art really boring and dreadful, but then again it’s the students choice)
Law
Philosophy
Social work
Computing
These are the degrees I can think of from the top of my head so if there’s more that aren’t MM degrees, sorry and I know that they aren’t I just can’t remember them.
What MM degrees are is what I think that you don’t get skills from and degrees that don’t increase salary and make you largely in debt and make you suffer. I do also think that universities shouldn’t accept students with lower than CCC although this is controversial (extenuating circumstances are another story). Things like music can be deeply complicated with the theory. I rather like to think that business and management degrees can be used as a masters rather than an undergraduate degree.
With degrees like English lit or geography, students can go into further research to get a phd OR they can enter jobs that require those skills such as politics, journalism, business and even teaching. So that’s why it’s a great degree. Languages help you with teaching and let’s you enter businesses although I also think that the language should be studied with something else for example economics although I do believe if someone wants to do an mfl, they can attend classes that don’t require £9000+ a year, but yet again, it’s the students choice.
Degrees like Egyptology shouldn’t exist, it’s just history that is specialised in the Egyptians and same again with American studies. It’s history and anthropology that’s specialised in America. There are a few more which I don’t see the point of either but again, it’s not the top of my head.
Also I think that if a student does a psychology degree and enters retail, then it can be called a MM degree as the student isn’t using the skills learnt, perhaps they don’t want to continue with their degree or because the job markets are too saturated (which then it isn’t their fault)
It might seem controversial but what do you think?
Ps- I think that polytechnics should be brought back
As an Egyptology student, my degree is far more transferrable than a lot of courses. I've done modules in archaeology, history, religion, language, and even had the option to do science or modern language modules. I got a great graduate job out of it before returning to university for postgraduate study. So feel free to ask me any questions about Egyptology.
Original post by SparkleFace
I never said it was a Mickey Mouse degree. I said it’s too niche so it shouldn’t exist. A student should specialise in it after they’ve done a history degree with Egyptology modules but that is what I think
But then History degrees would be oversubscribed. If I want to learn to read hieroglyphs, why should I have to do a degree with classes in medieval history, first, for example?
i wonder if there actually is such a thing as a mickey mouse degree
Original post by MadameRazz
i wonder if there actually is such a thing as a mickey mouse degree
It's more about learning how to sell your degree and the transferrable skills than anything else, in all honesty.
Original post by Edminzodo
But then History degrees would be oversubscribed. If I want to learn to read hieroglyphs, why should I have to do a degree with classes in medieval history, first, for example?
That’s when I start to believe that Lord Asriels idea isn’t too bad and Is better than mine
there are too many Mickey Mouse Undergrads rather than Mickey Mouse degrees. You have learned archaeology, religion and language which is great! But many students (Not like you) don’t manipulate what they learn to empower them self with a good job that they enjoy, I think my history teacher was just an odd ball. She did say that she wished to do more research before starting a degree. I was just being general about an Egyptology degree but I don’t think it’s an MM degree, knowing that you’ve learned lots and have amazing transferable skills that have helped you in your life and job has made me change my opinion about it, I just thought it was a bit too nicheOriginal post by SparkleFace
That’s when I start to believe that Lord Asriels idea isn’t too bad and Is better than mine there are too many Mickey Mouse Undergrads rather than Mickey Mouse degrees. You have learned archaeology, religion and language which is great! But many students (Not like you) don’t manipulate what they learn to empower them self with a good job that they enjoy, I think my history teacher was just an odd ball. She did say that she wished to do more research before starting a degree. I was just being general about an Egyptology degree but I don’t think it’s an MM degree, knowing that you’ve learned lots and have amazing transferable skills that have helped you in your life and job has made me change my opinion about it, I just thought it was a bit too niche
there are too many Mickey Mouse Undergrads rather than Mickey Mouse degrees. You have learned archaeology, religion and language which is great! But many students (Not like you) don’t manipulate what they learn to empower them self with a good job that they enjoy, I think my history teacher was just an odd ball. She did say that she wished to do more research before starting a degree. I was just being general about an Egyptology degree but I don’t think it’s an MM degree, knowing that you’ve learned lots and have amazing transferable skills that have helped you in your life and job has made me change my opinion about it, I just thought it was a bit too nicheI'm glad to hear that. It does certainly depend on the student, but many of my friends are in very good jobs or at top universities for further study following their degrees. Interviewers are often very interested in students who study 'different' degrees. I've interned at a FTSE 100 company and also worked for one of the biggest sports clubs in the world, so I don't think that my degree has held be back in any way, although I did work alongside my degree, which I'd recommend any student do to help them stand out and pick up skills.
Original post by Edminzodo
As an Egyptology student, my degree is far more transferrable than a lot of courses. I've done modules in archaeology, history, religion, language, and even had the option to do science or modern language modules. I got a great graduate job out of it before returning to university for postgraduate study. So feel free to ask me any questions about Egyptology.
Woah, I’d love to hear about your experiences. What extra things did you do alongside your degree and what area/ industry are you working at right now? Also, have you got any advice on how to sell your transferable skills or use them to your advantage? It makes me happy to see a someone doing a ‘Mickey Mouse degree’ wasn’t really a ‘Mickey Mouse student’ at all in the end.
(I guess the degrees I’m considering- English Literature and modern languages- fall into the grey area of being a MM degree or not being one, and I’m trying to break out of that mindset that, frankly, was developed by TSR in the first place, and also to see the potential usefulness of those degrees if I spend my time as an undergraduate wisely).
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Original post by Pichi
Woah, I’d love to hear about your experiences. What extra things did you do alongside your degree and what area/ industry are you working at right now? Also, have you got any advice on how to sell your transferable skills or use them to your advantage? It makes me happy to see a someone doing a ‘Mickey Mouse degree’ wasn’t really a ‘Mickey Mouse student’ at all in the end.
Currently a postgraduate student at Cambridge (here on a scholarship, so I pay no fees). Before that, I went to Liverpool, and then I worked at a university for a bit (I won't say which university or in which department publicly for privacy reasons, so PM me if you want more details).
The best advice I can give is to just get involved and take up opportunities (and seek them out as well).
One thing lead to another with me, and if you can sell your skills from working in a shop or in hospitality to graduate employers, you can get a good graduate job.
Before university, I'd only ever worked in a shop (and I'd tell the story of going around my town handing out 30 CVs until I was hired to show my resilience in interviews). I got a job almost immediately after starting university, and worked as a student ambassador in term time. Then, in my final year, worked part-time in a university department, which gave me the experience I needed to get a job in higher education. I worked for a sports club in the first two summers, which gave me great experience, and then did internships in the summers of my second and third year (one in the university, and another in a big private company).
The more experience I got, the easier it was to secure the next role, and show that I had skills like teamwork, problem solving, communication, and initiative, from my studies and previous roles, that could be transferred into a new one. In terms of extra-curricular activities, I was a part of a university sports team for 1.5 years, and president of an academic society. I also studied abroad one Easter break, and took part in a university business competition in the Netherlands, just through replying to emails that were sent round. So, overall, just take up opportunities and get involved! PM me if you have any questions.
Original post by SparkleFace
Ah that’s such a good way in thinking about it! I do agree with this, I think this is better then the way I phrased it, how would you suggest to filter out those who are Mickey Mouse undergrads?
I don't think there is an easy clear way to do this, as "Mickey mouse" anything is never clearly defined. However, I would say a good yardstick would be when people leave university saying
"Uni was a complete waste of time, I didn't learn anything while I was there. I didn't get a good job, it hasn't really improved me life and I may as well not have went for all the good it did me." I think to me this is the heart of the issue, that people have a rare opportunity to develop themselves in a situation where they have 3 protected years, access to some of the leading experts in the world in an area and very expensive academic research journals, a community of similarly talented peers and the ability to engage in a wealth of activities that you don't get anywhere else in life. If that opportunity has just been used to get drunk and skive, and the person has taken absolutely nothing from the experience, I think you have your answer.
Bonus points would be for "...and I don't think others should go as well."
Original post by MadameRazz
i wonder if there actually is such a thing as a mickey mouse degree
Maybe fine art and Performing arts? other than that no imo. I think the bigger issue is that too many 16-19 year olds or people in general going to university when they don't need to or want to or they're simply doing it because it's the standard these days or that schools, parents and the government are not making the effort to tell students what paths there are other than the traditional: Do GCSEs, Do A-levels, Go to university ASAP.
Original post by MadameRazz
i wonder if there actually is such a thing as a mickey mouse degree
i meant an actual degree about mickey mouse btw.
Original post by MadameRazz
i meant an actual degree about mickey mouse btw.
Any degree in animation will cover Mickey Mouse because he is the first animated film star.
Original post by nulli tertius
Any degree in animation will cover Mickey Mouse because he is the first animated film star.
i-
never mind.
A Mickey Mouse degree, in my humble opinion is any degree which I see listed somewhere and immediately think “wow that’s actually a degree??”.
Original post by SparkleFace
Hey. I believe that Mickey Mouse degrees do exist but degrees that people believe are MM degrees I don’t agree with. Non Mickey Mouse degrees:
Bio
Chem
Physics
Maths
Geography
History
English literature
Mfl
Anything health related like nursing, optometry or medicine
Economics
Psychology
Sociology
Engineering courses
Architecture
Music
Arts (Although I think that any art student that wants to apply to uni are already very creative and bursting with ideas and I somewhat believe that they don’t require going to university, my aunt has said that uni drained her ideas and made art really boring and dreadful, but then again it’s the students choice)
Law
Philosophy
Social work
Computing
These are the degrees I can think of from the top of my head so if there’s more that aren’t MM degrees, sorry and I know that they aren’t I just can’t remember them.
What MM degrees are is what I think that you don’t get skills from and degrees that don’t increase salary and make you largely in debt and make you suffer. I do also think that universities shouldn’t accept students with lower than CCC although this is controversial (extenuating circumstances are another story). Things like music can be deeply complicated with the theory. I rather like to think that business and management degrees can be used as a masters rather than an undergraduate degree.
With degrees like English lit or geography, students can go into further research to get a phd OR they can enter jobs that require those skills such as politics, journalism, business and even teaching. So that’s why it’s a great degree. Languages help you with teaching and let’s you enter businesses although I also think that the language should be studied with something else for example economics although I do believe if someone wants to do an mfl, they can attend classes that don’t require £9000+ a year, but yet again, it’s the students choice.
Degrees like Egyptology shouldn’t exist, it’s just history that is specialised in the Egyptians and same again with American studies. It’s history and anthropology that’s specialised in America. There are a few more which I don’t see the point of either but again, it’s not the top of my head.
Also I think that if a student does a psychology degree and enters retail, then it can be called a MM degree as the student isn’t using the skills learnt, perhaps they don’t want to continue with their degree or because the job markets are too saturated (which then it isn’t their fault)
It might seem controversial but what do you think?
Ps- I think that polytechnics should be brought back
Bio
Chem
Physics
Maths
Geography
History
English literature
Mfl
Anything health related like nursing, optometry or medicine
Economics
Psychology
Sociology
Engineering courses
Architecture
Music
Arts (Although I think that any art student that wants to apply to uni are already very creative and bursting with ideas and I somewhat believe that they don’t require going to university, my aunt has said that uni drained her ideas and made art really boring and dreadful, but then again it’s the students choice)
Law
Philosophy
Social work
Computing
These are the degrees I can think of from the top of my head so if there’s more that aren’t MM degrees, sorry and I know that they aren’t I just can’t remember them.
What MM degrees are is what I think that you don’t get skills from and degrees that don’t increase salary and make you largely in debt and make you suffer. I do also think that universities shouldn’t accept students with lower than CCC although this is controversial (extenuating circumstances are another story). Things like music can be deeply complicated with the theory. I rather like to think that business and management degrees can be used as a masters rather than an undergraduate degree.
With degrees like English lit or geography, students can go into further research to get a phd OR they can enter jobs that require those skills such as politics, journalism, business and even teaching. So that’s why it’s a great degree. Languages help you with teaching and let’s you enter businesses although I also think that the language should be studied with something else for example economics although I do believe if someone wants to do an mfl, they can attend classes that don’t require £9000+ a year, but yet again, it’s the students choice.
Degrees like Egyptology shouldn’t exist, it’s just history that is specialised in the Egyptians and same again with American studies. It’s history and anthropology that’s specialised in America. There are a few more which I don’t see the point of either but again, it’s not the top of my head.
Also I think that if a student does a psychology degree and enters retail, then it can be called a MM degree as the student isn’t using the skills learnt, perhaps they don’t want to continue with their degree or because the job markets are too saturated (which then it isn’t their fault)
It might seem controversial but what do you think?
Ps- I think that polytechnics should be brought back
Would you mind telling us what high flying degree from a first rate university you have then? Something that enables you to pass judgement on others it would seem.
Original post by Edminzodo
As an Egyptology student, my degree is far more transferrable than a lot of courses. I've done modules in archaeology, history, religion, language, and even had the option to do science or modern language modules. I got a great graduate job out of it before returning to university for postgraduate study. So feel free to ask me any questions about Egyptology.
Are you now qualified to open a mummies tomb and kill it, as The Mummy has informed us?
Original post by Napp
Would you mind telling us what high flying degree from a first rate university you have then? Something that enables you to pass judgement on others it would seem.
No, you first. Would you mind telling us what high flying degree from a first rate university you have then? Something that enables you to pass judgement on others it would seem.
Original post by SparkleFace
No, you first. Would you mind telling us what high flying degree from a first rate university you have then? Something that enables you to pass judgement on others it would seem.
Why are you repeating what i said ?:s
Original post by Napp
Why are you repeating what i said ?:s
I said ‘No, you first’!
That’s not repeating what you said
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