In a world where science now gets ignored

Is there a point you're trying to make here sorry?

1. For me, probably around 3 years since the first people started getting jabs. So by October 2023 assuming there are no side effects starting to become apparent in the population, I'll look at booking my first dose.

2. What exactly is required to end it? The government and the experts are always too vague about that. We were first told it was just going to be 3 weeks. We followed the rules but the restrictions got extended. We were then told we could go back to normal once the vulnerable were vaccinated, but again they moved the goalposts and kept restrictions in place until July 19th. We're now being threatened with more restrictions over winter and Susan Michie says she wants restrictions to go on forever. I don't care if I catch covid or not, the only appeal the vaccine has for me is if it will definitely allow me to return completely to normal with no further threat of restrictions in future. So before I consider getting jabbed, I need to know they won't move the goalposts again. I need to know exactly what specific criteria will be enough for these scientists to say that the pandemic is over.

3. Do we know how many people have actually died because of covid, rather than just dying of unrelated causes when they were infected?

4. How do you know there are unlikely to be any long term safety effects of the vaccine? It's a complete unknown, just like possible long term side effects of the vaccine.

5. I'd consider the JCVI experts, and they specifically opposed vaccinating children but were overruled by Comical Chris.

Most people who are wary of the covid jab aren't actually opposed to vaccines in general. I've had various vaccines when I was younger and I trust them. Something just feels weird about this one though. It has been developed far quicker than any other vaccine I'm aware of, and there is intense pressure and coercion to get it. The scientists always seem quick to shout down and ridicule anyone who raises concerns (Nicky Minaj) and that makes me more skeptical of the jab. Why are the experts so desperate for me not to hear peoples concerns? Is there something to hide?

I have zero admiration for those who rely on big pharma medication to live. They also are very unhealthy and look unhealthy.

By then it should become more clear whether there is any long term effects. Sometimes everything can seem ok in the short term but later on we find out it isn't. For example, footballers constantly heading a football might look and seem fine in the short term but end up with dementia as a result of that which only becomes apparent years later. As for why I specifically said 3 years and not 4, or 5, or even 10, well I admit it's a bit arbitrary. But ultimately you need to draw a line somewhere otherwise you could end up refusing the vaccine forever on the basis of there might be a side effect that only becomes apparent in yet another year. For me 3 years seems like a fair compromise between taking time check for any long term side effects, and not putting it off forever.

Maybe not to you, but if she says she was concerned about those things then I think she was absolutely right to raise those concerns. If Comical Chris wants to encourage vaccine uptake, he shouldn't ridicule and attack people for raising concerns, no matter how daft he personally thinks those concerns are. Not everyone has the same in depth understanding of medicine as him, so what seems like a silly concern to him might be a very real and valid worry for someone else. Treat people with respect.

Any negative side effects of the vaccine are likely to occur close after vaccination. As the vaccines have been in use for over a year now I think we have a very good idea on what the potential negative effects may be (e.g. myocarditis).



I don't think that lies about a medical product that can save lives and prevent hospitalisations during a pandemic automatically deserves respect. The issue isn't someone choosing not to take the vaccine - it is someone spreading lies and misinformation that may cause those who are open to taking the vaccine to not take it.

If you missed the point in response to your statement, then I’m sorry for you.

Ignoring the irony of Comical Chris accusing someone else of spreading misinformation, what "lies" did Minaj spread exactly?

If someone is genuinely worried that the vaccines might cause a side effect then they aren't "lying" about that worry, even if it later turns out to be unfounded. I'm scared of flying, every time I do it I worry there will be a freak accident and the engines fail and we all plummet to the ground. Statistically that worry is unfounded. I'm more likely to die driving to the airport and there is so much safety mechanisms and precautions that it's probably silly to worry about. But it is a genuine worry for me. I wouldn't appreciate someone coming up to me after the flight accusing me of "lying" about my worries because we landed safety. Yes, what I was worried about didn't come to pass, but the worry itself was real.

Some people are trying to convince others not to have the vaccine and I appreciate that you don't like that. I don't particularly like it either, I think vaccination should be a personal choice free of influence from others. But it's worth pointing out here that what you complain about is also happening in the other direction. Whitty is trying to convince people TO get jabbed. Why are you ok with that if you're not ok with the other side doing it?

I don't think this is about two different sides competing with each other. For starters, the vast majority of eligible people have taken a vaccine, so the actual numbers of antivaxxers is very low. Those who have been vaccinated include people who pro lockdown, pro vaccine passport etc. to those who are anti everything other than vaccines. If I see someone post something I consider to be false, and I have the time and interest, I may post a reply that I consider corrects the claims made - as you do on a public forum. In this instance I saw an infographic with very misleading information so decided to post corrections.

I’ve had the virus with mild symptoms and been fine, you fool 😂.

Whatever happens, I am ready to catch it again and know that my God given immune system is ready to deal with any threat. If not, I am also ready to meet my maker.

You sound like an angry chap riddled with fear of a virus that has a less than 2% mortality rate. I pity you. Did you know that anxiety has a debilitating effect on the immune system?

Good for you i guess? why am i supposed to care?

Yeah, you acting like a tough man on tsar isnt fooling anybody. Each and everybody here knows well enough you'd soil yourself if faced with the threat of death. Saying otherwise is quite clearly *******s.
As for your 'god given immune system' lol.

And you sound like someone whose argument is so utterly pathetic you have no recourse but to continue using hilariously weird ad hominems?


Suffice it to say, this comment looks like it was written by a child who knows nothing of viruses, death or anything else for that matter. Your bizarrely blasé attitude to death being frankly quite disturbing and your callous disregard for the thousands who have died making you a thoroughly repugnant sort.

Each and everybody here knows well enough you'd soil yourself if faced with the threat of death.

I’ll follow sense and look after my immune system.