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I am sick of everyone using 'terrorism' as an excuse for our colonial invasion of Afghanistan.

After the 9/11 attacks it was found the predominant nationality of the terrorists was Saudi Arabian. Yet for political and economic reasons, even with the lack of cooperation from the Saudi government, we have ignored that country in placing blame.

The Afghan people did nothing to deserve another war. The Taliban, of course, is closely tied to bin Laden and al-Qaeda, but so are the Pakistanis and the Saudis. Even the United States was a supporter of the Taliban's rise to power, and as recently as August of 2001, we talked oil pipeline politics with them.

The recent French publication of bin Laden, The Forbidden Truth revealed our most recent effort to secure control over Caspian Sea oil in collaboration with the Taliban. According to the two authors, the economic conditions demanded by the U.S. were turned down and led to U.S. military threats against the Taliban. It has been known for years that Unocal, a U.S. company, has been anxious to build a pipeline through northern Afghanistan, but it has not been possible due to the weak Afghan central government. We should not be surprised now that many contend that the plan for the UN to "nation build" in Afghanistan is a logical and important consequence of this desire.

The crisis has merely given those interested in this project an excuse to replace the government of Afghanistan. Since we don't even know if bin Laden is in Afghanistan, and since other countries are equally supportive of him, our concentration on this Taliban "target" remains suspect by many.

Again, a very weak and inconsequential argument. During the battle of Tora Bora, American forces came within a whisker of capturing Bin Laden, however he fled across the border into Pakistan.

Instead of collaborating with the Pakistani forces to make a swift capture which they had hoped to do, we, just threw a whole lot of money at them to catch him themselves without our help, which they promptly didn't do.

The American and later British forces however, instead turned to this so called "nation building" which i mentioned above.

Balls? Vast assumptions? I have provided you with a credible source on events that actually happened pre-9/11. Truths that perhaps are too hard for people like yourself to swallow?

Just to clarify:

The recent French publication of bin Laden, The Forbidden Truth revealed our most recent effort to secure control over Caspian Sea oil in collaboration with the Taliban. According to the two authors, the economic conditions demanded by the U.S. were turned down and led to U.S. military threats against the Taliban. It has been known for years that Unocal, a U.S. company, has been anxious to build a pipeline through northern Afghanistan, but it has not been possible due to the weak Afghan central government. We should not be surprised now that many contend that the plan for the UN to "nation build" in Afghanistan is a logical and important consequence of this desire. 9/11 must have been christmas come early for western leaders, just as the subsequent invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were the best thing that could have happened to Bin Laden and Al qaeda.

And yet Bin Laden was the reason given to American congress to pursue an undeclared war in Afghanistan.

If America had complied with a willing Pakistani military, after Bin Laden had crosssed the border, he would have been caught. Instead America threw money at Pakistan and withdrew, choosing instead to forge ahead withh the so called nation building.

The taliban are very well trained and battle hardened fighters, they don't care if they die, in fact they want to die.

The only reason soldiers have died recerntly is because the UK has launched an offensive, therefore more conflicts are happening.

Our soldiers are there, but they're not doing anything.. they're in their bases 90% of the time.. We're not really fighting in afghanistan, if we actually wanted to win there, thousands would die every year.

If we want to win, there has to be an offensive 24/7 365 days of the year. Soldiers would die, but we'd win.

Now you have to ask yourselves, what do we gain from winning? Do we want to win?

We do not want to win, we'd happily sit around and put the taliban into power if they said they'd be pro west..