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Original post by im so academic
Bull**** reason to apply for Oxbridge. You apply for the course structure, the tutorial/supervision system, the collegiate nature etc.

If I said that to a candidate on the Oxbridge forum, i.e. "apply to see you can be successful", do you think that is appropriate?

What about those kinds of parents who force their children to apply for Oxbridge to see if they could be successful, even if the child doesn't particularly want to go there?

Think twice before you speak. You don't apply "to see if you can be successful", you apply because you want to study there.

What's the point of applying for course "to see if you can be successful", only to reject it due to accommodation costs? (Should've done the necessary research beforehand).


Your arguments are somewhat badly thought out, as far as I see it.

Firstly, I would reject the idea that it is unfair to apply just for the challenge, because the method of interviewing and making offers (at least as advertised) should make this argument more-or-less incorrect. Since the universities can make offers for colleges other than the first choice, or even pooled offers with the college to be allocated later, it is probably unlikely (but not impossible) that an applicant who is impressive enough at interview would be rejected because someone else applied to their college just for the challenge.

Secondly, it should hopefully come through in the interview that the student is not so interested in studying there, although that might not work because the interviews are heavily focused on academic ability, and as far as assessing motivation goes, I imagine (from my experience) they would ask "Why do you want to study this subject?" rather than "Why do you want to study this subject at this university?".

Thirdly, your apparent obsession suggests that if you were to apply it would be for an equally 'bad' reason. Referring repeatedly and exclusively to the two institutions as a group - "Oxbridge" - despite the fact that there are differences between the two in terms of atmosphere and course content and structure, suggests that you disregard these issues, and that your interest is drawn purely from the prestige of the 'Oxbridge brand'. On top of that, I doubt you would be bothered if anyone put any other university on their UCAS application just to fill up space and to see if they would get an offer.

"Think twice before you speak." Wow, the arrogant attitude of some people on here is astonishing. I'd tone that down at interview if I were you, assuming you're not actually a current or former student trolling everyone for your own amusement. Reading The Student Room certainly fosters cynicism.
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there was a lad at my school who was going to so that he could go to harvard, but didn't get the financial support that he needed to go there, so didn't. first person into oxford for 7 years from my school

my form teacher did, she rejected cambridge for engineering to go to imperial (hated people+place, dont blame her IC is crazy), ended up president of the union (CGCU- engineers, or ICU), worked as an engineer and then became a teacher (bit weird, i know).
I know a girl who got an offer to study English at Oxford and turned it down in favour of Sussex. The Oxford admissions staff then proceeded to e-mail her practically begging her to change her mind, and even phoned her on results day asking her to accept the offer even though she only got AAB. In the end she decided to accept the place for deferred entry next year. Mad story, though, they must have really wanted her.
Reply 163
Yes I know someone who turned down History at Oxford for UCL.
Reply 164
Yeah. A friend's neighbour at Durham rejected an Oxford place for Durham, not particularly unusual I would have thought.
Original post by Papa Caesar
Your arguments are somewhat badly thought out, as far as I see it.

Firstly, I would reject the idea that it is unfair to apply just for the challenge, because the method of interviewing and making offers (at least as advertised) should make this argument more-or-less incorrect. Since the universities can make offers for colleges other than the first choice, or even pooled offers with the college to be allocated later, it is probably unlikely (but not impossible) that an applicant who is impressive enough at interview would be rejected because someone else applied to their college just for the challenge.

Secondly, it should hopefully come through in the interview that the student is not so interested in studying there, although that might not work because the interviews are heavily focused on academic ability, and as far as assessing motivation goes, I imagine (from my experience) they would ask "Why do you want to study this subject?" rather than "Why do you want to study this subject at this university?".

Thirdly, your apparent obsession suggests that if you were to apply it would be for an equally 'bad' reason. Referring repeatedly and exclusively to the two institutions as a group - "Oxbridge" - despite the fact that there are differences between the two in terms of atmosphere and course content and structure, suggests that you disregard these issues, and that your interest is drawn purely from the prestige of the 'Oxbridge brand'. On top of that, I doubt you would be bothered if anyone put any other university on their UCAS application just to fill up space and to see if they would get an offer.

"Think twice before you speak." Wow, the arrogant attitude of some people on here is astonishing. I'd tone that down at interview if I were you, assuming you're not actually a current or former student trolling everyone for your own amusement. Reading The Student Room certainly fosters cynicism.



Reply 166
And although it's not at all the same, I didn't apply to Oxbridge for the reasons that I preferred the course at all of my other choices. Of course, I'm not implying that I'd have definitely got in or anything, but I just felt that it was more correct to apply to places that I had the greatest desire to go to.
Reply 167
It's surprising the number of people who know people who've been phoned up and begged to go to Oxford/Cambridge. Unbelievable, some might say:tongue:
I've applied to Cambridge for NatSci but if I get an offer I'm planning ot reject it for Physics at Manchester
Reply 169
Original post by Slumpy
It's surprising the number of people who know people who've been phoned up and begged to go to Oxford/Cambridge. Unbelievable, some might say:tongue:


I can't realistically see it happening either :p:
Original post by sam8472
Cambridge refused my mum for her degree stating that she wasn't up to their academic standards so she went else where got a first in English lit and her tutor put her forwards for a place at Cambridge. Cambridge offered her an a place she told them to go **** themselves as they weren't prepared to take a punt on her as a mature student and wouldn't want to go to a department that outright refused her for not being good enough.


Go your mum! woopwoop! xx:smile:
Someone I know turned down an offer for maths at Trinity, Cambridge last year to go to MIT.
Wait a minute... imsoacademic is like fourteen, yet is arguing about university applications?

Go to the back of the line darling.
Reply 173
Original post by LauriC
Yes, Oxbridge isn't necessarily for everyone. They teach a lot differently from other universities and they have colleges (usually I guess these are positives but some like less structure and more freedom etc.)

My friend in the year above me turned down Cambridge for History of Art to go to the Courtauld Insitiute of Art. The courses are more or less equal and Oxbridge has the better reputation but in the world of Art History (so I have been told) Courtauld actually has the better reputation even though a lot of people haven't even heard of it....


Yes, the Courtauld Institute has a better research assessment according to this :

http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/single.htm?ipg=8727

and relatively high entry requirements as a result considering that many people not familiar with art schools won't have heard of it.
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Original post by therealOG
Just out of curiosity, does anyone on TSR know of someone who put Oxbridge as their insurance or just rejected the offer outright? And why did they do it? I know Oxbridge doesn't appeal to everyone (Someone in my family decided to leave Cambridge after a year and ended up at UCL), but I've never heard of someone rejecting an Oxbridge offer.


A friend of mine rejected oxford for imperial to study medicine. The reason was because his dad was a lecturer at oxford, he got the offer at oxford because he kept talking about his dad(a wise thing to do at the interview?), he felt imperial's offer was solely due to himself
Reply 175
Original post by kashim91
A friend of mine rejected oxford for imperial to study medicine. The reason was because his dad was a lecturer at oxford, he got the offer at oxford because he kept talking about his dad(a wise thing to do at the interview?), he felt imperial's offer was solely due to himself


I cannot help but suspect that that's not why he got an offer at Oxford(at least, not for the reason you claim).
Original post by c++renegade
The point is s/he doesn't know anyone who rejected the original offer, since the person s/he's talking about studied for a year then left.


Oh yes. I know. I just wanted OP to know how you say it correctly that's all. I didnt mean to be cocky
Reply 177
I recently had an interview at Oxford and would have turned it down if they had given me an offer. I absolutely hated it.
When I told my head of year she said she wasn't suprised and there had been atleast 5 people from my school who had turned offers down in the past
I think I heard about someone who rejected an oxbridge offer in favour of warwick, but I can't be sure if that's true as this was near enough three years ago.

On a similar but less prestigious note I rejected offers from manchester and warwick in favour of lancaster :wink:
Reply 179
I know someone who chose Durham as his firm over Oxford.

Despite the fact that there are millions of people who would literally die to get an offer from Oxbridge, there are always those who are good enough to be accepted but just wouldnt want to go there because they feel it just isnt the right choice for them.....its a funny world we all live in.

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