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Dreadful man, dreadful politics. Won't miss him. Won't celebrate his death. This means nothing to me.
Reply 21
He was one crazy guy, lol, he was like a real life cartoon character.
...and nothing of value was lost.
Original post by Swanbow
Well I think the Socialist will still remain in power, but without the charismatic figurehead they might slump a little.


That's one side of it. On the other, there are radicals, particularly grassroots movements, who Chavez actually acted as a moderating influence on. Maduro or another PSUV leader will probably not receive the same trust.
Reply 24
R.I.P

Very influential man, will be interesting to see what happens next.
Reply 25
Hopefully venezuela can move on and fix the mess chavez caused
Good man, RIP.

Americans and Israelis will be having a great time tonight.
Oh look, someone said my thoughts for me. Great when everything just comes together nicely. :smile:
Original post by The Epicurean
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21679053


I wonder what this will mean for the future of Venezuela :holmes:


it really depends, if the current regime holds together than things won't change much.

thing is this really, if the USA get their hands on a puppet regime there then you can kiss goodbye to falling poverty levels and stuff and to any hopes they have of fighting the corporations who want to steal their resources.

the Chavez regime has plenty of failings for sure, but it's better than a USA puppet regime imho...
Reply 29
There must be an unbearable sense of uncertainty in Venezuela at the moment, I hope the people get what they want and not what may be implemented from outside.

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A loss of a great leader that did a lot for the working people in his country under imense pressure from elites. I believe America has had a lot to do with covertly undermining Chavez's government for a while and are responsible for a lot of the problems Venezuela has faced (violence, drugs). Im sure the CIA are working overtime to support which ever puppet that wishes to jump at this opportunity.
Reply 31
Original post by Tea is for mugs
I think he is a great man, his socialist policies transformed the country for the better, a real shame he is dead. What are your thoughts?


He wasn't a Socialist. His ideology was that of Marx.
Original post by barnetlad
My thought is that a man dying at 58 is a premature death and my thought is for his bereaved family.


My thoughts exactly.
Out of curiosity why?
Original post by Tea is for mugs
I think he is a great man, his socialist policies transformed the country for the better, a real shame he is dead. What are your thoughts?


I remain relatively neutral on the matter, though it can be denied that he was charismatic leader and many will be said to see him gone, he also pushed many into poverty with some of his policies. Even with vast amounts of oil the country still went into recession. It'll be interesting to see how Venezuela moves forward with this.


Original post by SnoochToTheBooch
I don't... care...


Thank you for that insightful comment.
Reply 35
some of comments on this thread from the rampant right of tsr are disgraceful. if i said that about thatcher id be getting reported constantly.
Original post by Tea is for mugs
I think he is a great man, his socialist policies transformed the country for the better, a real shame he is dead. What are your thoughts?


There were celebrations all over south Florida last night. Seems like you can't find a single Venezuelan anywhere here who agrees with you.
Reply 37
Original post by Made in the USA
There were celebrations all over south Florida last night. Seems like you can't find a single Venezuelan anywhere here who agrees with you.


He's a British socialist. He won't listen.
Reply 38
As we all remember this funny guy, here's a list of my favourite Hugo Chavez moments:

1. ¿Por qué no te callas?

At the meeting on 10 November 2007, Chávez repeatedly interrupted the speech of the Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, to call the Prime Minister's predecessor, José María Aznar, a "fascist" and "less human than snakes", and accuse Aznar of having supported a failed coup d'état aimed at removing Chávez from power. Although organizers switched off Chávez's microphone, he continued to interrupt as Zapatero defended Aznar. While the interruption and defence were taking place, Juan Carlos leaned forward, turned towards his fellow head of state, and said "¿Por qué no te callas?" ("Why don't you shut up?").

The king's phrase gained cult slogan status, ringing from mobile phones, appearing on T-shirts, and being used as a greeting.

2. U.S. to blame for Haiti earthquake

In 2010, Chavez faulted the U.S. for Haiti’s devastating earthquake. He argued the U.S. was testing a “tectonic weapon” that caused the natural disaster. Chavez argued the earthquake was a result of “weapon earthquakes” the U.S. created that would eventually be used to take over Iran.

3. Why is there no life on Mars? Capitalism killed it!

Chavez argued in 2011 that capitalism is to blame for the lack of life on Mars. “I have always said, heard, that it would not be strange that there had been civilization on Mars, but maybe capitalism arrived there, imperialism arrived and finished off the planet,” Chavez said in speech to celebrate World Water Day.

4. His own cancer caused by the U.S.

In December 2011, Chavez went as far to suggest the U.S. might have been behind the cancer affecting several leaders in South America, including him and Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. “It’s very difficult to explain, even with the law of probabilities what is happening to some of us in Latin America,” he said in a televised speech. “would it be so strange that [the U.S.] invented technology to spread cancer and we don’t know about it for 50 years?”

5. 9 hour speech

The man could talk. Last year, Chavez who was running for re-election at the time, gave a speech to the National Assembly that lasted more than nine hours. Chavez had recently had surgery to remove a malignant tumor, and the gist of his message was that he was back and better than ever. He later told local media he had lost track of the time.

Sources: The top 10 eyebrow-raising Chavez moments (msnbc) and ¿Por qué no te callas? (Wikipedia)
Reply 39
Original post by Made in the USA
There were celebrations all over south Florida last night. Seems like you can't find a single Venezuelan anywhere here who agrees with you.


Celebrating the death of other human being is a sign of moral misery; even more when said human being has done nothing but helping millions of his fellow countrymen getting out of extreme poverty.

It's funny how in the democracies of the western world people are being thrown out of their houses right now (as it happens in the US, Spain, Greece, and other European countries), whereas in Venezuela this strange "dictator" was helping the people in need to acquire houses --either for free, for the poorest people, or for a reasonable and payable price, for those with more incomes. (Among other social plans to improve the quality of peoples' lives).

And by the way, I am a Venezuelan; one of the many millions of them who are in sorrow now for this loss. Maybe you don't find too many Venezuelans in the US who love Chávez because, most of the Venezuelans who emigrated to the US bought that "here comes the tyrant" rubbish spread by the media here. (Most of them always hated their country anyway, even before Chávez arrived to power).
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