Will North Korea Be Another Iraq/Vietnam?

The USA lost to Vietnam for crying out loud. If it was just the USA, then the USA would lose. But, if the USA had their allies fight with them, they'd win for sure.

However, I think North Korea would attempt to nuke the USA first and then USA would nuke them.

The USA lost to Vietnam for crying out loud. If it was just the USA, then the USA would lose. But, if the USA had their allies fight with them, they'd win for sure.

However, I think North Korea would attempt to nuke the USA first and then USA would nuke them.

If it was just the USA, then the USA would lose. But, if the USA had their allies fight with them, they'd win for sure.

I think the Chinese may resist because a US invasion, from the CPC's point of view, would be a strategic nightmare for them:

- US troops approaching their borders

- Korean refugees entering China, causing a drain on resources that are scarce enough

- Possibility of growing nationalist sentiment (highly debatable IMO) among ethnic Koreans in the border provinces in China

However I think that if the Kim regime is toppled, the Chinese government may just take over the North in order to implement its own buffer against US troops and/or enforce flood control on immigrants

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You underestimate North Korea. Sure, if the US nukes them to oblivion, they will stand no chance - but will the US nuke them, especially with the close proximity of South Korea, its ally, which will undoubtedly be affected by the aftermath of nukes dropping on NK.



This is the thing. It is unclear what China's actual position is, regardless of its defense pact or UN responsibilities. I say this, because, if you've seen the news lately, China has since been massing troops etc on the North Korean border. Now, why is this? Is this to stop any potential refugees? Is it preparing for any potential enforcement of its defense pact with NK (i.e. repelling attackers of NK) or is it a preparation for an actual invasion of North Korea itself?

I highly doubt that China will enter into a direct conflict with the United States, but with the massing of Chinese troops near North Korea, it is a possibility, albeit a remote one.

People don't seem to get it...the USA lost to [North] Vietnam because the former Soviet Union and Maoist China bolstered North Vietnam's manpower by a huge margin. The Vietnam war was basically the Eastern Bloc (Soviet, China) vs Western Bloc (US+European Allies).

With North Korea, I highly doubt Russia and China are going to offer their support - huge costs with no benefits for either nation. The country's a lost cause and even China's getting really fed up with North Korea's constant threats

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Nobody is going to invade North Korea, so no, it won't.

I think it would be far, far worse, because unlike Iraq and North Vietnam the North Korean state appears to have no sense of self-preservation. Kim Jong-un would have no hesitation in nuking an invading army on North Korean soil, even if it meant killing thousands of his own people at the same time. Even Hitler and Stalin, let alone Saddam, were never prepared to go so far against their own loyal supporters.

Are you sure about that?

In any case, North Korea actually needs to be invaded by someone - either China or a United States-led coalition. It is now or never - because if the US leaves this to fester, NK might just carry out its threats and wreak havoc somewhere. Iraq was invaded for much much less - right now, the US has a hostile force threatening to destroy it, and it just sits twiddling its fingers (OK, maybe not twiddling fingers, as it is spying and deploying troops and ships and planes and subs etc to the area).

People don't seem to get it...the USA lost to [North] Vietnam because the former Soviet Union and Maoist China bolstered North Vietnam's manpower by a huge margin. The Vietnam war was basically the Eastern Bloc (Soviet, China) vs Western Bloc (US+European Allies)

The U.S. didn't lose to North Vietnam, let alone to the Soviet Union and Maoist China, the latter of which had actually been co-opted by Nixon in 1972 because of increased tensions between the two communist powers. Up until the U.S. withdrawal in 1973, there were more South Korean troops partaking in ground operations during the Vietnam War - on the side of the Americans - than North Vietnamese. It was only after the U.S. withdrawal that the North Vietnamese army launched a full-fledged invasion of the South. The U.S. was in fact defeated by an indigenous South Vietnamese guerrilla movement, the NLF, which received overwhelming support from the majority of the South Vietnamese population due to America's brutal conduct against Vietnamese civilians stretching back to the end of WWII. North Vietnam was but a sideshow of the Vietnam War.