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You clearly haven't seen the final. It was decent like I said Gonzalez has pretty much on a hot streak which he carried to the final but Federer's level was insane.

You probably just looked Federer winning in 3 and thought it was a boring final or something. Not saying it was out of this world or anything but was definitely watchable.

Definitely more watchable than Murray getting spanked at US0 '08, AO '10 and AO '11 all in straights.

Fed actually said few times he would like to play in 2016 olympics and in wimby press conference he said hes got plans to play for many m0re years.

USO '08 had some pretty good tennis I think (mainly from Rog), even if it was one-sided.

But you forget that Federer literally ****s his pants whenever he sees Nadal .


I think Nadal showed incredible fight and resilience to come back into that final. I think at most Federer would have won a set had they met then.

lol Damn Fed - why he gets so scared, I'll never know. We've seen him play devastatingly well against RN on a good day, just failed to do so in the slams since 2007. Mental block gone too far. Indian Wells 2012 SF was tactically speaking the best match I ever saw from him against Rafa.

2010 I agree, no chance. But 2011 - tougher to call. Fed was literally on the brink of beating Djok and played really well, whilst Djok could have actually straight-setted Rafa in the final (he was a break up 3 times in that 3rd set).

For me, the best case scenario for Federer's remaining career would be for him to launch a final push just for the two remaining majors that he has a chance of winning (USO 2013 and Wimbledon 2014), and for him to win one of them and then retire on a high a la Sampras USO 2002. It

What I really don't want him to do is to labour on for the next 3/4 years, continue to drop down in the rankings, and continue to lose habitually to mugs of the Stakhovsky ilk. His game isn't getting any prettier as he gets older, too.

As much as I fear it I think his final push may just have beeb the late 2011- mid 2012 spurt he had to get that one final crack at the no.1 record which he thankfully accomplished.

I hope I'm proven wrong though.

Yeah. If his 2013 form now represents his actual limitations (and this is not just a temporary blip) then he has no chance at #18. I cannot tell at the moment whether that is the actual case or if he still has another gear that he can go to. A string of bad results have often served as a good kick-up-the-arse for him to start playing well again (just look at USO 2011 SF and onwards).

Geriatric: Tommy Haas (age 35) Baby: Grigor Dimitrov (Baby Fed) Pigeon: Berdych (Djokovic has a 13-2 winning record against him (ergo "pigeon"); Berd also sounds like "bird", hence the nickname Berd****).



Those statistics are impressive although not quite at 2011 level (although we probably shouldn't expect them to be as good, even if his level was hypothetically the same). He just doesn't quite have the consistency or the aura of invincibility that he had in that year. You say that is due to the increased quality of his opponents, but to me it just seemed like the general level of his performance dipped following AO 2012. In early-mid 2011 he consistently maintained unbelievably high-level performances across the GS and master tournaments. It feels like he is still able to reach them dizzying heights at times (e.g. Monte-Carlo final, Australian Open final) but not in continuous stretches of the ATP calendar as in 2011. More importantly, it's like he's not really in control of when he can hit this "Djokovic 2.0." level -- in RG 2012 F, Wimbledon 2012 SF, USO 2012 F, and Wimbledon 2013 final, which were very important matches of his career, he seems to have turned up flat. The quality of his opposition undoubtedly played a part in these matches, but in all of these losses he just didn't have that awesome level of power and penetration on his shots that (for me) characterised his 2011 run. He has also recently been posting losses to lower ranked opponents such as Dimitrov and Haas, who are they types of player that he wouldn't have dreamed of losing to on his 2011 run.

In my mind, I think of Djokovic as three different entities: Djokovic 1.0 (pre-2011), Djokovic 1.5, and Djokovic 2.0. This may sound simplistic, but for me it feels like he has been stuck as Djokovic 1.5 since the end of AO 2012, and only forays into the Djokovic 2.0 mode on occassions these days.

Right I see your logic there. My reasoning was that mur looks a bit like a pigeon.

Anyone think Tsonga will win a grand slam anytime soon?

Federer's age is well and truly against him now. He gets less power off his serve/forehand these days, he's a step slower and his movement has become suspect at times. He's nearly 32 now so it's going to be increasingly difficult for him to keep up with the likes of Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and DelPo.

Right I see your logic there. My reasoning was that mur looks a bit like a pigeon.

Murray is Nadals pigeon why because 13-5 H2H nd copies his celebration.

Yeah, the list of people that can actually beat him consistently is getting longer and longer. First it was Nadal, then it was Djokovic/Murray, then it was Tsonga/Berdych, now it seems like every Tom-and-Dick-and-Harry has a chance. The probability of him winning any given GS is really know, although if the stars really align for him I suppose it would not be out of the question.

Yeah, the list of people that can actually beat him consistently is getting longer and longer. First it was Nadal, then it was Djokovic/Murray, then it was Tsonga/Berdych, now it seems like every Tom-and-Dick-and-Harry has a chance. The probability of him winning any given GS is really know, although if the stars really align for him I suppose it would not be out of the question.