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Hi Guys,

I am looking to apply to medicine once again this year after failing to get an offer after two interviews, but oh well hopefully this year it will change! I wanted to ask whether we have to state why i am taking a gap year as its clearly obvious as to why or do i state it, and also i have applied to health care assistant jobs but dont know whether i will get it or not so unsure about stating that. Also i am currently volunteering at two different hospitals, since jan 12.

Thanks in advance :smile:
Original post by Superoms
Hi Guys,

I am looking to apply to medicine once again this year after failing to get an offer after two interviews, but oh well hopefully this year it will change! I wanted to ask whether we have to state why i am taking a gap year as its clearly obvious as to why or do i state it, and also i have applied to health care assistant jobs but dont know whether i will get it or not so unsure about stating that. Also i am currently volunteering at two different hospitals, since jan 12.

Thanks in advance :smile:


Well firstly, congrats on reapplying anyway. Reapplicants are obviously the best, some of the coolest of which are sitting on this page. So, howdy.

From what I understand, whether we mention our gap years in our personal statement is really not as much of a big deal as we make it to be. Some universities couldn't care less and from what I've read upon in the previous re-applicant page is that most interviewers don't even care enough to ask about it. [Possibly because it's not a criteria they're trying to assess / question as indicated by their sheet]. I would be far more inclined to discuss it if I was applying for deferred.

Anyway, if you have the space, or if it will add to your application, sure write about it. If you are using up valuable words, when you could be writing about what you've gained from some of the experiences / volunteering you've already done, obviously don't do it. Having a gap year won't make or break your application. The experiences you gain in it, will - these will be assessed at interview I guess.
Original post by SuziieB
I got an A* in A level maths and still couldn't handle QR! Everyone hates it, don't worry.

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Wow that's amazing congrats! Okay haha that is actually reassuring :smile: I didn't do it at A Level, think I was lucky to get an A at GCSE!!
Hi I'm debating between Nottingham and Aberdeen? Most likely to go for Aberdeen tho but not sure

4 A*s 4As 2Bs 2Cs at GCSE,( Science A*A*A at science, A* maths and B English lang)

AAB at AS Levels, currently taking a 4th As Level during year 13 predicted AAA and A for the fourth AS level

Ukcat 702.5 average, band 1, VR:530. AR:720 QR:750 DA:810 TOTAL:2810

Which one am I best off applying to? Aberdeen or Nottingham? I'm noy predicted any A*s even tho I got 90%s in my maths AS level -.- but Nottingham want high GCSEs and have a ukcat cut off for each section and I got 530 VR any advice?

My other choices are keele, Leeds, Manchester
Original post by ameelia22
90% of the doctors tell me quite clearly, "Don't. Do. It. Get out while you can. Turn around and never look back," and it seriously crushes me inside. I was talking to a nurse last week though, and she said take no interest in it, as the F1's job is one of the worst she's ever seen. But from F2 onwards, it gets so much better. Apparently.

I agree that volunteering and hardcore long term stuff is a great insight into a career in medicine, and hence we have all made an informed decision about our careers, but it still unnerves me. I'm sure at least some of the doctors I am speaking to made an informed decision too and got lots of experience, particularly the grads and yet they loathe it. One F1 said to me yesterday, "You get to a point, where you don't give a **** how interesting your job is. You just want to go home at a decent hour one day a week. Make the wise decision. Pick dentistry,". I'm just like :K:


Try not to take what the F1s say too seriously. I agree with that nurse, F1 is one of the worst jobs ever (from what I have seen). Also bear in mind that the F1s now applied in 2006/7 (if my arithmetic is correct), I'm not sure as many (compared to now) will have worked in a hospital for prolonged periods, as say a HCA (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong:smile:), I think their perspective much more often would have come from shadowing a doctor (possibly a reg/consultant) for a week, and maybe doing a befriending scheme a couple of hours a week/volunteering in a care home. I just don't think you get the same perspective from that (not to devalue the great experience though).

I am looking forward to medical school (more the clinical years than my pre-clinical year, I'm looking forward to learning interesting stuff, and doing doctory things without the pressure of being an actual doctor:tongue::wink:) and I'm looking forward to specialty training years (don't know what I want to specialise in though). I am not however looking forward to F1, I'm sure I'll enjoy the responsibility and all that I will learn but I don't doubt that will wear off quickly as it really does seem like a **** job (as interesting as it is). I'll just focus on the fact that it will get better.

I also think you maybe caught that F1 on a bad day (or week). The hours they work are horrendous, when you're there at 8pm as a nurse, or HCA you're getting paid for being there, as an F1, often you aren't (you're there, you're doing your jobs, but you aren't officially there and therefore aren't getting paid). Now were I work there'll be one F1 that works late in each area, I think it was supposed to help, it really doesn't.

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Either way, I think its worthwhile in the end (for me at least), even though I know I'll have my bad/ranting days. I've explored other options so know the grass isn't always greener.



Original post by NikoB
Lmao there's gonna be good days and bad days. I shadowed a junior doc and she worked twice as hard from what I could see compared to my shadowing of a registrar(who had time to sit in the cafeteria and buy me lunch :colondollar:)

Perhaps GP/health clinics will be much more relaxing :ninja:


:yep: That sound's about right :lol: I remember shadowing consultants, received so many morning snacks I started to feel a bit guilty :colondollar: However I didn't envy some of the decisions they had to make/conversations they had to have with parents (it was a paeds hospital). Not sure about the GP/health clinics though. I'd imagine the role of a GP can be quite stressful (before you even consider the additional stuff they have to do if their the owner/partner in a practice) :erm:
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Original post by NikoB
Lmao there's gonna be good days and bad days. I shadowed a junior doc and she worked twice as hard from what I could see compared to my shadowing of a registrar(who had time to sit in the cafeteria and buy me lunch :colondollar:)

Perhaps GP/health clinics will be much more relaxing :ninja:


Beg to differ, well from my experience I found GP a real eye opener. There is so much pressure on them now, to see so many patients in such little time. Deal with all different kinds of people (drug addicts other social issues). They work long hours as well, I used arrive at 9am they were there way before that like 7;30 maybe 8am, I finished at 5pm and was getting tired, they still continue till like 6pm, Rushed lunch is not uncommon, having to see medical reps, catch up with their paper work during lunch. They are also business people and barely get time to do that aspect during working hours. They do however get the week end of which is nice, but with the recent A+E crisis, it looks like some surgeries will have to do more out of hours. Gets quite boring as well see the same stuff constantly, the same dude who last week said he broke his leg now this week broke his eye so still wants a sick note. I don't think there is such a safe choice in medicine, just have to pick what you like. Except maybe Dermatology :rolleyes:
Original post by raveen789
Beg to differ, well from my experience I found GP a real eye opener. There is so much pressure on them now, to see so many patients in such little time. Deal with all different kinds of people (drug addicts other social issues). They work long hours as well, I used arrive at 9am they were there way before that like 7;30 maybe 8am, I finished at 5pm and was getting tired, they still continue till like 6pm, Rushed lunch is not uncommon, having to see medical reps, catch up with their paper work during lunch. They are also business people and barely get time to do that aspect during working hours. They do however get the week end of which is nice, but with the recent A+E crisis, it looks like some surgeries will have to do more out of hours. Gets quite boring as well see the same stuff constantly, the same dude who last week said he broke his leg now this week broke his eye so still wants a sick note. I don't think there is such a safe choice in medicine, just have to pick what you like. Except maybe Dermatology :rolleyes:


I didn't think about that properly, you're right!
Oh and radiology too, they just sit in the rooms :lol:
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Original post by NikoB
I didn't think about that properly, you're right!
Oh and radiography too, they just sit in the rooms :lol:


:lol: I think you mean radiology (the medical specialty), radiography is a completely different course, they're the people who actually do the scans (the labour intensive part) :wink: I think the dermatologists job could be stressful, some skin conditions are really awful and some patients have very unrealistic expectations. I'm trying to find an argument to defend radiology but I'm struggling :erm:


Original post by raveen789
Beg to differ, well from my experience I found GP a real eye opener. There is so much pressure on them now, to see so many patients in such little time. Deal with all different kinds of people (drug addicts other social issues). They work long hours as well, I used arrive at 9am they were there way before that like 7;30 maybe 8am, I finished at 5pm and was getting tired, they still continue till like 6pm, Rushed lunch is not uncommon, having to see medical reps, catch up with their paper work during lunch. They are also business people and barely get time to do that aspect during working hours. They do however get the week end of which is nice, but with the recent A+E crisis, it looks like some surgeries will have to do more out of hours. Gets quite boring as well see the same stuff constantly, the same dude who last week said he broke his leg now this week broke his eye so still wants a sick note. I don't think there is such a safe choice in medicine, just have to pick what you like. Except maybe Dermatology :rolleyes:


Good to hear from someone with a useful insight into general practice.
Original post by manupalace
:lol: I think you mean radiology (the medical specialty), radiography is a completely different course, they're the people who actually do the scans (the labour intensive part) :wink: I think the dermatologists job could be stressful, some skin conditions are really awful and some patients have very unrealistic expectations. I'm trying to find an argument to defend radiology but I'm struggling :erm:




Good to hear from someone with a useful insight into general practice.


It's ironic about dermatology because I have eczema :colondollar: But I do not blame them, it's hard to work with skin conditions. Wish there was more interest in reaching a cure behind some of them though :smile:
Original post by manupalace
:lol: I think you mean radiology (the medical specialty), radiography is a completely different course, they're the people who actually do the scans (the labour intensive part) :wink: I think the dermatologists job could be stressful, some skin conditions are really awful and some patients have very unrealistic expectations. I'm trying to find an argument to defend radiology but I'm struggling :erm:




Good to hear from someone with a useful insight into general practice.


Oops :colondollar:
Radiology looks pretty dull...
Original post by NikoB
Oops :colondollar:
Radiology looks pretty dull...


Its a common mistake :wink:
I'm still thinking about the difficulties of radiology, give me time :tongue: I'll get back to you

This is an interesting case study. As is this. Who knew radiology would be so competitive :erm: (you can probably tell I have a lot of time on my hands atm :colondollar:)

Edit: Radiology has an on call commitment and interventional radiology looks like it could be quite stressful/interesting.
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Original post by manupalace
Its a common mistake :wink:
I'm still thinking about the difficulties of radiology, give me time :tongue: I'll get back to you

This is an interesting case study. As is this. Who knew radiology would be so competitive :erm: (you can probably tell I have a lot of time on my hands atm :colondollar:)

Edit: Radiology has an on call commitment and interventional radiology looks like it could be quite stressful/interesting.


Wow that's interesting, that's my lazy route gone :mmm:
competition in the field of medicine?! That's a first :ahee:
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Guys help me out please, it's from UEA. Does the above mean they use sub test cut offs or just consider overall score?!
Original post by ameelia22
Whilst working as a HCA, and even more commonly while I was on work experience: was I the only one constantly told by doctors / healthcare professionals how much they hate their jobs and then went on to advise you on doing dentistry? It's constant. Makes me really want a sit down and think about this all, when thats all they ever tell me.

Original post by NikoB
One consultant laughed at me because I was considering medicine, he was like "don't do it, you don't know what you're getting yourself into" another doctor told me to do dentistry. It's common but if we don't try, we never know!

I had that too. At least I cannot say I wasn't forewarned :smile:
I'm having a real hard time deciding where to apply! I thought I could do it but I can't!!

Which schools do you think favours reapplicants? I'm already thinking of applying to Exeter and Plymouth but I don't know anywhere else.

Btw I can't do group interviews (I.e. Manchester) or mmi interviews (I.e. Leicester or Leeds). I just don't think I could do it and I had an interview with Leicester last year but was rejected.

GCSE: 4 A* 5 A 2 B
A levels: A*AA
UKCAT: 687.5

Thanks in advance!!!

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Original post by SuziieB
I'm having a real hard time deciding where to apply! I thought I could do it but I can't!!

Which schools do you think favours reapplicants? I'm already thinking of applying to Exeter and Plymouth but I don't know anywhere else.

Btw I can't do group interviews (I.e. Manchester) or mmi interviews (I.e. Leicester or Leeds). I just don't think I could do it and I had an interview with Leicester last year but was rejected.

GCSE: 4 A* 5 A 2 B
A levels: A*AA
UKCAT: 687.5

Thanks in advance!!!

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Instead of just dismissing the school based on interview style, could you think about how you could deal with it? MMI replicates the OSCE style of medical school exams; you need to learn to make a good impression anew every 5 minutes and not let each station affect the next one.
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Well from reading that to me it seems UEA aren't considering the STJ, have no cut-off for the UKCAT, look at the sub-scores and the overall scores with the overall score being the main thing they're looking at. I say that with a simple logic that for them to analyse and scrutinize 4 individual sections for every applicant is going to take billions of years :tongue: I'm sure they'll have a glance at them and will probably notice a) VR is commonly the lowest and b) DA is commonly the highest but at the end of the day mate I truly believe it's your overall UKCAT score they will be considering unless they have specifically stated: 'we use the sub-components and score you on each individual section...' which they haven't so it is safe to assume the big picture is your UKCAT average. However definitely call them on this to ease your nerves, nothing worse than to put a choice down on UCAS with clouds of doubt in mind. :redface:
Original post by PG593
Well from reading that to me it seems UEA aren't considering the STJ, have no cut-off for the UKCAT, look at the sub-scores and the overall scores with the overall score being the main thing they're looking at. I say that with a simple logic that for them to analyse and scrutinize 4 individual sections for every applicant is going to take billions of years :tongue: I'm sure they'll have a glance at them and will probably notice a) VR is commonly the lowest and b) DA is commonly the highest but at the end of the day mate I truly believe it's your overall UKCAT score they will be considering unless they have specifically stated: 'we use the sub-components and score you on each individual section...' which they haven't so it is safe to assume the big picture is your UKCAT average. However definitely call them on this to ease your nerves, nothing worse than to put a choice down on UCAS with clouds of doubt in mind. :redface:


Thanks! Yeah my VR is awful, :facepalm: and DA highest :rofl: I'll definitely give them a call! :biggrin:
Original post by Becca-Sarah
Instead of just dismissing the school based on interview style, could you think about how you could deal with it? MMI replicates the OSCE style of medical school exams; you need to learn to make a good impression anew every 5 minutes and not let each station affect the next one.


Well its obviously not one of my strengths and I'm trying to apply to a school with an interview style that I would be more comfortable with and I would have the greatest chance of getting in.

There's nothing wrong with MMI stations and I actually found it quite enjoyable on the day but obviously perhaps the competition was really high with a really high cutoff and my score was simply not competitive enough. All those rejected post interview aren't all going to make bad doctors, some may have been close to the cutoff but they had to draw the boundary somewhere and some might have been really nervous.

If I have attempted the MMI stations and failed at it, perhaps I perform better using another interview style? I don't know, but I'd rather not risk it.

Thanks for your reply.

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I don't know what to do, any advice is appreciated.
I sat my UKCAT yesterday, and got 665. Really disappointed as I got 690 in QR, 720 in AR, 750 in DA and 500 (!!!!) in VR, which dragged it down.
I was hoping to apply to Newcastle, Manchester, HYMS and Leeds, but now I do not know.
My A2's are A*A* (biology and geography) A (chemistry)
GCSES; 8A* 1A.
AS; AAAB
Any suggestions on where to apply? (I applied to Liverpool, Sheffield, Leeds and Cardiff last year with a weak UKCAT of 600. I had interviews at both Liverpool and Cardiff)
I dont know what to do now :frown:

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