DECILES

Ours are

Year 1&2 - 33%
Year 3 - 33%
Year 4 - 33%

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Normandy114

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Think at Manchester it's just 3rd-5th year that influences it, no clue about what each year's weightings are though.

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Original post by Normandy114

Think at Manchester it's just 3rd-5th year that influences it, no clue about what each year's weightings are though.

5th year can't, as you apply at the start of year 5.

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groovyangel2008

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I dont really know how it works. Im at birmingham- so do these decile places affect where u go? So for example can a person in the tenth decile apply for a job in london?

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Original post by groovyangel2008

I dont really know how it works. Im at birmingham- so do these decile places affect where u go? So for example can a person in the tenth decile apply for a job in london?

It makes up part of your foundation application, along with your performance at finals and the SJT. You can also gain additional points for having a degree, publications, audits, national prizes etc. This all contributes to how competitive your foundation application is and therefore increases your chances of getting your preferred jobs.

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Medicine Man

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At BL, for deciles its:

1st Year = 25%
2nd Year = 25%
3rd Year = 25%
4th Year = 25%
5th Year = post FPAS so it's a standalone f/p/m/d

I think I prefer it this way where each year is equally weighted - by definition, it's a a more accurate snapshot of someone's ability over the duration of the course. That, and you roughly know where you stand by the end of 3rd year, give or take 1/2 decliles (unless you do exceptionally bad/well in 4th year to alter where you'd roughly be).

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Original post by Medicine Man

At BL, for deciles its:

1st Year = 25%
2nd Year = 25%
3rd Year = 25%
4th Year = 25%
5th Year = post FPAS so it's a standalone f/p/m/d

I think I prefer it this way where each year is equally weighted - by definition, it's a a more accurate snapshot of someone's ability over the duration of the course. That, and you roughly know where you stand by the end of 3rd year, give or take 1/2 decliles (unless you do exceptionally bad/well in 4th year to alter where you'd roughly be).

Yes/no. Although it's an equal snapshot across all the years, there is an argument to suggest that you learn less in year 1 compared to year 3. Also it could be said that the clinical years and OSCEs have more value for foundation ranking as they are more relevant to what you will be doing as an FY1.

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Original post by shiggydiggy

It makes up part of your foundation application, along with your performance at finals and the SJT. You can also gain additional points for having a degree, publications, audits, national prizes etc. This all contributes to how competitive your foundation application is and therefore increases your chances of getting your preferred jobs.

Prizes are not included anymore, they removed them as many applicants were confused/unable to meet the criteria.

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Original post by carcinoma

Prizes are not included anymore, they removed them as many applicants were confused/unable to meet the criteria.

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I know that it recently changed, but I thought it was just restricted to national prizes now?

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DoctorInTraining

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Original post by shiggydiggy

I know that it recently changed, but I thought it was just restricted to national prizes now?

Prizes have been removed completely as of this cycle - I know as I've applied! Eeeks!

There are now between 34 -43 points depending on your decile.

Extra 7 points for additional academic achievements - degrees (up to 5) and publications/presentations (up to 2)

Publications must have a PubMed ID

Presentations must be a professional conference like AMEE or Royal College Organised - NOT student/peer events.

Hope that helps :smile:

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Original post by shiggydiggy

I know that it recently changed, but I thought it was just restricted to national prizes now?

Last year and earlier it was just national prizes. This year it's only publications with PMID or national/international presentations. No prizes as all.

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Blimey - where do audits fit in these days?

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Original post by shiggydiggy

Blimey - where do audits fit in these days?

For FPAS they don't count unless they are published or presented at a national or international conference. They do count for speciality applications.

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Original post by carcinoma

For FPAS they don't count unless they are published or presented at a national or international conference. They do count for speciality applications.

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Good. That makes me less guilty about not bothering with this **** while at medschool.

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Mushi_master