The Top 10 UK Universities

Happy to hear you think this I am a KCLer

I feel our teachers are really wonderful and our research is excellent. But student satisfaction is what brings us down on domestic rankings. Its very frustrating for our lecturers, there is a lot of stupid bureaucracy in the uni big wigs and the essay feedback scheduling is very sloooowwww.

But besides that, I really love King's

I'm going to King's next year, so am glad to hear you enjoy it! What do you study?

I'm a third year English student I'm applying to kcl and Oxford for an MA/Mphil in Medieval literature. What are you going to study? You are more than welcome to pm if you have any questions or want advice for anything


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The above may be true if you are applying for non-graduate jobs disguised as graduate ones at mickey mouse firms. I finished college many years ago, and sixth formers know very little about universities beyond downloading league tables, and a few conversations within their inner circle, and the odd open day visit. To understand things more clearly, you need some business experience to see how things really work, on top of a degree or Masters.

Well I know what I have said holds true for most engineering firms. You apply and if you have the potential to work for them, you're invited to take psychometric testing. If you pass, you immediately get told you'll have a phone interview. If you pass that, you then attend a face to face interview and/or an assessment centre where they test your motivations and whether you're capable of working as a team.

Whilst I did an internship at one of the worlds largest aerospace companies, I met people from a vast range of Universities. There were people there from Cambridge all the way to universities like Brunel. The idea that a degree from one institution will be held to a higher regard than one from another 'lesser' but still accredited university and course is not true. The fact is unless you become a researcher, most of what you learn at uni won't be used as part of your everyday working lives. What's far more important is your ability to communicate well and clearly and that os only found through interacting with you verbally.

Cambridge
Oxford
Imperial
LSE
UCL
Durham
Warwick
St Andrews
Bristol
York

G5 is just my shorthand for referring the 'Super Elite' Universities in the UK and is a group that consists of LSE, Oxbridge, UCL and Imperial. They attract the most funding or something.

I think then that there's a confusion here due to lack of explanation on your part.

First of all, I think that you confused popularity with prestige.
Popular doesn't always mean prestigious, and prestigious isn't always popular. They aren't mutually interchangeable, and do have different meanings.
Take this as an example.
Have you heard of Pomona, Williams, Amherst or Shwarthmore? I bet those names don't ring a bell to you or most of the students in the UK.
Those schools aren't popular, correct. In fact, only less than a couple of thousands apply to those each of those schools annually. But for those who know and have heard of those schools, they are considered prestigious. In fact, all those colleges are more selective than LSE, Imperial or UCL.

In the UK, have you heard of Cranfield? I guess not. And, it would also be my guess that you don't consider it to be prestigious.
Yes Cranfield isn't popular. But for those who care and have heard of it, it is considered prestigious.
The same can be said of Warwick. It does not have the same name recognition of the University of London, or UCL or LSE, but to those who care, Warwick is considered prestigious and highly respected.



Secondly, you're also confused how undergraduate education differ from graduate education.
The league tables you cited, which are the bases of your top universities list are largely based on graduate level education. For example, you cited research. Research is more of a function and thrust of graduate and postgraduate education. Undergraduate concerns about classroom teaching, faculty caliber, student selectivity, employment prospects of graduates, and the total college experience that the university provides, such as quality and price of student housing, sports facilities, winning in sports competitions, clubs and orgs in campus, etc..


Having that is mind, would you say Warwick is out of the top 10 in the UK?

I don't understand why Imperial is consistently rated lower than Oxford. In terms of courses, 8 out of 14 of the main courses offered at Imperial are ranked higher according to the ukcompleteuniversityguide. Most of the subjects in which Imperial, is not ranked higher, they are only 1 or 2 positions away (apart from medicine). Imperial is higher in the QS world ranking as well as in this year's research assessment exercise. They are also higher than Oxford for graduate salary as well. As far as I am concerned, Imperial is on the same tier as Oxbridge. I can imagine it being similar for UCL and LSE.

Oxford will always be better. It is the oldest in the UK, has produced the most prime ministers, all the potential future conservative party leaders and the current PM are Oxford graduates. It has a university press that prints books that children all over the world read. Often the dictionary they first use has the words Oxford written all over them. When you mention Oxford you will get wows and when you mention Imperial most people will nod in approval, but its not the same.

In the long history of universities Imperial recent rankings aren't lasting and the unfortunate truth is that Imperial is a specialist school and engineering just doesn't get as much press attention as politics and other subjects do.

Cambridge University is the oldest in England, Oxford is the second oldest.

Might want to check your facts. Cambridge is 1209, Oxford has been teaching 113 years longer than that and could be even older. In fact, Cambridge Uni partly only exists because of disputes between Oxford vni and the locals

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