The Arsenal Thread XXII

You're sounding like Scholes now lol

Chambers will get absolutely annihilated at RB if you play him there.

And Bellerin wont?

Ok so Gabriel looks like an utter Squillaci for us.

Did TSR have a system to detect who repped you? I'm sure when I joined it told me who pos repped me and who neg repped me.

Did TSR have a system to detect who repped you? I'm sure when I joined it told me who pos repped me and who neg repped me.

how long ago did you join?

I thought these days that if you paid to subscribe you could see who repped you..

But I do also remember back when I joined, you were given personal rep, (cant remember if that was instead of, or in addition to your post rep) where people would rep and leave a comment to you.. -- then you could see who it was

When are we gonna get a proper leader in this squad? Every other big team has atleast one.

City: Kompany & Toure

Man Utd: Rooney

Chelsea: Terry

Liverpool: Gerrard

Arsenal: ...?

I don't think we've had one since Adams tbh or since that era generally last one being Henry.

Van Persie was apparently your best leader since Vieira. Until he left, obviously.

He was good at getting us out of situations and making his own chances but he wasnt really a leader I mean the guy called his own teammate(Ramsey) utter crap and said he shouldnt even be playing football.

Remember reading somewhere that Van Persie was a true leader of men during his latter years at Arsenal, whereas Henry would walk around as if he was bigger than the club.

Remember reading somewhere that Van Persie was a true leader of men during his latter years at Arsenal, whereas Henry would walk around as if he was bigger than the club.

Yeah I never really bought into this whole 'Henry was a great leader for arsenal' thing. I always thought the real leader was Adams. You cant really say RVP was an actual leader he had so many disputes with his own teammates. There were many Club Captains but not many leaders such as Adams. Captains like Gallas and RVP were the worst.

Adams had it easy though really surrounded by proper men like Bergkamp, Keown, Bould, Seaman, Vieira etc. He was into the vocal ''come on boys'' stuff but the real steel of that group was much more subtle and unspoken. How would he have done surrounded by snakes and spineless cretins like Nasri, Fabregas and Adebayor I wonder? Pissing in the wind would old Tone I'll bet, although at least he probably have decked a few of them.

The captaincy is largely a ceremonial role to be truthful, leadership and focus comes from the group as a whole. So whilst Gallas and RVP are hardly the stuff of Rorke's Drift, they were no worse than the group of players whom they were elected from. And I maintain that never in PL history has a bigger group of underachieving pricks been assembled than Arsenal 2008-2011. Cretins almost to a man.

Every team gets the captain it deserves ultimately. Our team lacks leaders, has lacked leaders since 2006 and will continue to lack leaders in all probability. If Santi Cazorla is deemed fit to wear the Arsenal armband then that is surely a sign that it is worthless at present.

You make some good points and I agree.

You have to ask then why are their no real leaders ? I hear wenger doesn't like personalities in the team or personalities who like to dictate or so it goes. I think we purposefully don't have any proper leaders.
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Genuine leadership and bottle is a rare trait, and the correlation with top class footballing ability is extremely rare. Wenger has a particular type of player, he just wants players with technical ability and if they tick his boxes then whether they are spineless or not is of no consequence to him whatsoever. Throw a lot of spineless bottlers together and the sum will actually be more spineless than the parts. Wenger is a very stubborn man now. I'm sure he has the intelligence to realise that his player profile is deficient, he ignores that because there's this 5'5 CAM at Nice who he has his eye on atm and surely the team with the best technical players will win? .

There are some players with bottle in our team but they're lost in the general sea. Koscielny, Wilshere and Sanchez at Chelsea would fit in like lego pieces wouldnt they?

That may actually have been from one of RVP's reporter mates. He arranged some scandalous propeganda around the time that he left.

Never heard anyone connected with Arsenal utter a bad word about Henry.

The key battle tonight is how United look to break down Coquelin.

They are too pedestrian and insipid at times, and without increasing the tempo, I think you'll go relatively untroubled.