Cameron to say face veils need to be removed for officials

Original post by sw651

I said in the Bible. The old testament is still the word of God. All religious fundamentalists use this argument of not in the new testament. It is pathetic.

Except the Bible was written by man. It is not the direct word of God.

I am not a religious fundamentalist. I am a Christian. My faith does not affect you in any way.

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Original post by Katty3

Except the Bible was written by man. It is not the direct word of God.

I am not a religious fundamentalist. I am a Christian. My faith does not affect you in any way.

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Jesus was Gods messenger on earth. The Bible was written by the apostles of Christ who gave their own interpretation of his words. As such it is the word of God interpreted. As such we must consider it to be Gods truth, correct? Don't answer I already know I am right.

Christianity is ironic. Jesus wasn't even a Christian. It is affecting me right now, because you are spouting trash.

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Original post by sw651

Jesus was Gods messenger on earth. The Bible was written by the apostles of Christ who gave their own interpretation of his words. As such it is the word of God interpreted. As such we must consider it to be Gods truth, correct? Don't answer I already know I am right.

Christianity is ironic. Jesus wasn't even a Christian. It is affecting me right now, because you are spouting trash.

Jesus Christ was the Son of God in the Holy Trinity.

Yes. The Bible is interpreted by humans and as such is imperfect. Mistakes have also been made in the translations. I do not focus on the individual words and phrases in the Bible, instead I focus on the overall message of the Bible.

Jesus Christ was Christ. Christian means follower of Christ. How could He possibly have been a follower of himself?

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Original post by Savage R3N3GAD3

Should be a total ban on all forms of head and face coverings because it's very intimidating, it's a security threat and has no place in this society.

What a stupid post
What about if someone suffers from cancer and wears a scarf...will they have to go out bald then?

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Original post by Katty3

Jesus Christ was the Son of God in the Holy Trinity.

Yes. The Bible is interpreted by humans and as such is imperfect. Mistakes have also been made in the translations. I do not focus on the individual words and phrases in the Bible, instead I focus on the overall message of the Bible.

Jesus Christ was Christ. Christian means follower of Christ. How could He possibly have been a follower of himself?

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I have no issues with the rest of your argument, I do with the last part.

See, if Jesus is Gods messenger on earth then he simply spoke the word of God. Thus he was a follower of Gods words, not his own. So technically he wasn't following himself, he was following God and as such his words. So he could've been considered a Christian

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Original post by sw651

I have no issues with the rest of your argument, I do with the last part.

See, if Jesus is Gods messenger on earth then he simply spoke the word of God. Thus he was a follower of Gods words, not his own. So technically he wasn't following himself, he was following God and as such his words. So he could've been considered a Christian

Jesus wasn't the messenger of God. He was the Son of God. He is considered to be God in the Holy Trinity.

Christians are the followers of Christ, hence the name.

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Original post by Katty3

Jesus wasn't the messenger of God. He was the Son of God. He is considered to be God in the Holy Trinity.

Christians are the followers of Christ, hence the name.

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*sigh* this is going nowhere. Enjoy your made up God.

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Original post by MsFahima

Why should we be cause issues by not co-operating?

I don't know if you believe in God, but I do and I believe he looks at our intentions and he knows we aren't revealing ourselves so we can attract people (sexually/physically etc), rather for identification and security purposes. Nothing wrong with that imo.

I doubt your God will manifest communications about a person's intentions to security personnel.

So you are saying women aren't sexually attracted to men...?
If not then why aren't Muslim men covering themselves.

Shouldn't it be more of a priority for Muslim men to control themselves better?

Original post by MsFahima

Hijab means modesty. And people interpret it in different ways. Wearing a headscarf is one way. Yes, they have a choice of following the religion and it's rules. You can't force anybody. In Islam we are told not to force anyone.

If it's about modesty, what if a girl is really really repulsive, like far more ugly than most men... Would she have to wear a hijab/burka?

Original post by MsFahima

So what if it isn't mandatory? We still wish to wear it and practice aspects of our religion that are not mandatory. It is our choice. Why do you want to take that away?

It's not about taking it away, it's about questioning why you do it in the first place.

PS if it is about modesty, why are the ears and hair covered in one head-dress, I can kind of see how concealing identity makes you a turn off... but concealing your ears?

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We should have deep respect and reverance for people of different religions. But when it comes to security, veils is an issue. also when it comes to culture, its not exactly British to cover your face in a veil in public is it.

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Original post by sw651

*sigh* this is going nowhere. Enjoy your made up God.

God is not made up.

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Original post by Katty3

God is not made up.

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Yeah, he is.

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