Reshuffle: David Cameron is back and Braverman sacked

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https://news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-sacked-as-home-secretary-13003852

Following the weekend shenanigans and her artivle in the times. Thought he’d wait until Rwanda tbh

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Andrew97

And James cleverly is the new home sec.

This leaves foreign vacant. David Cameron looks to be getting thst role

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Gazpacho.

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We have an epidemic of shoplifting. We have prison capacity at 100%. We are running up a huge hotel because of the failure to clear the asylum applications backlog. Braverman is not focusing on those issues.

Instead we see Braverman spending her time saying how she wants to criminalise homeless people who sleep in tents, ban protests and undermine the police. Such approaches go down well in hardcore conservative circles.

She has been failing in her job as Home Secretary by using the role to campaign for her future leadership bid of the Conservative Party.

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StriderHort

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Good, she was a disgrace and genuinely evil.

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Saracen's Fez

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It's undoubtedly helpful to have six years' experience as PM to do the job of foreign secretary, but I don't understand the politics of Cameron returning at all.

Cameron's politics and the way Sunak has tried to remake the Conservative Party are very different and it's hard to see how they can be coherently reconciled. Sunak has just given a speech criticising 30 years' of prime ministers, then appointed one of the longer-serving ones from that period to cabinet.

And then you come to the questions of Cameron's historic views on Brexit, or China...

Reply 6

NJA

Original post by Saracen's Fez

A reshuffle is ongoing in government. So far the headline moves are:

– Suella Braverman sacked as hone secretary
– James Cleverly made the new home secretary
– David Cameron (!!!!) makes a shock return to government as foreign secretary

Follow live here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67370421

you express shock at Cameron's return, really you should expect nothing else, the great offices of State a club for people with the globalist agenda, not for people that seek only what's best for the British people.
Of course if you rely on their client media you will never understand.
Here is an independent voice that has been shoved out.

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Now, i am left wing, but I have nothing to say about the way Cameron behaved as a politician. The reason why I think it might be a good idea is that it marks a sort of return to normalcy after the unusual politicial situation connected with Brexit, which was a huge change. In that space - and in the context of Trump - there was a sort of disruption and lines were crossed. Now, brexit is a fact, and now they must try to return to a normal situation in which rules are followed. I disagreed with brexit, but it was a fair vote. And then i hope the left wins at the next election. But I think it is good with a normal politician with some clout both for Labour and for the Tories.
What is your view, as future victims of lower taxes?

Reply 8

imlikeahermit

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I’m actually beyond annoyed. I’m seething. That man, who both totally underestimated the ability of his parliamentary colleagues to blatantly lie to the British public; but then also totally underestimated the pure stupidity and naivety of the British electorate should be absolutely nowhere near frontline British politics. It screams of desperation from Sunak and since the fat lady was already singing we can assume now she’s gone on to do an encore.

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Gazpacho.

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The last 13 years of Conservative government has been defined by infighting. It was Cameron’s attempt to nullify this infighting by calling for a Brexit referendum. It was a poor political decision that not only led to Brexit but amplified the internal squabbling to what you’d expect from a student socialist society.

That this man is deemed best candidate for the role is a damning indictment of the 348 Conservative MPs that were overlooked.

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Original post by Gazpacho.

The last 13 years of Conservative government has been defined by infighting. It was Cameron’s attempt to nullify this infighting by calling for a Brexit referendum. It was a poor political decision that not only led to Brexit but amplified the internal squabbling to what you’d expect from a student socialist society.

That this man is deemed best candidate for the role is a damning indictment of the 348 Conservative MPs that were overlooked.

So you blame Cameron for allowing Brexit? But even if i disagree with brexit, it had genuine public support and it was a matter on which it was natural to hold a referendum? I just think the whole subject, since it was so rooted in so many things, brought up a lot of emotional stuff. Now, power has shifted, but it is not well to invite long time chaos. I somehow link brexit to johnson since he was sort of a self-appointed apostle of churchill's jingoism, a thing that still simmers in many pubs. But that past can never return, the empire is lost. To build anything these days you need alliances, you cannot invade. The americans tried, and it was hugely expensive. So withdrawing into one's own island to worship one's own eccentricities might not the best course of action.

But it was news to me that you linked this so closely to cameron. I didn't expect that.

(edited 2 weeks ago)

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Original post by Alizea

Tony Blair is treated like a hero, when he was the ultimate Zionist stooge
He is a war criminal and a traitor to his countrymen

Is he alive? I haven't seen him on Tv for ages?

Reply 12

londonmyst

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Dreadful news that Suella Braverman has been sacked and David Cameron is coming back. :facepalm:

Looks like the Conservative Party's race into the electoral wilderness has commenced.
At the worst possible time for England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Reply 13

Kutie Karen

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isn't Cameron's background in PR? maybe that is why he is back!

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londonmyst

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Larry the cat must be too terrified to take a nap. :sigh:

Utter chaos constantly emanating from No 10 then the Conservative Party's ghosts of Christmas past suddenly walking in. :argh:

I'd rather the political comeback had been Nick Clegg.

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Original post by Alizea

Tony Blair is treated like a hero, when he was the ultimate Zionist stooge
He is a war criminal and a traitor to his countrymen

Before his "intimate" relationship with Bush, Blair was hugely popular, as I recall. It was iraq that brought him down. He was a centrist reaction against neil kinnock wasn't he? (john smith was between them, but with that name no wonder i keep forgetting him)
I seem to recall that Kinnock was a the sort of person everybody liked, they just didn't want him to run the country. I think braverman should be allowed back in, as minister of transport or wales, or perhaps special envoy to nothern ireland. In her wilderness years she will studying mosley, so it is best to keep her near by.

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NJA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IVxGqilVSE

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NJA