Muslims aren't the problem, Islam is

Without the Islamic instructions, it is unlikely that the same people would still think that apostates and adulterers should be killed.

However, I also think that for anybody who has been brought up in a secular democracy, or who has had an balanced, evidence-based education, there is absolutely no excuse for insisting that such things are still justified or acceptable.

Don't get me wrong, I do not deny that Islam is the major cause. But my issue is with this idea that humans are somewhat immune from blame for the beliefs they hold. With the resources we have available to us today, it is unacceptable that individuals such as Mehdi Hassan can believe that winged horses are real or that apostasy deserves the death penalty.

Point being that the ideas are wrong but so are the people for believing it.

You absolute troll, how am I the one obsessed? I swear, the kind of people on this forum do not cease to surpirse me.

This is a highly challengeable assertion. Islam is not a monolithic religion and, despite what most Muslims claim, they do not follow a literal interpretation of the scriptures. That is why we aren't in a far worse condition, not because the religion itself is benign.

Because you've made endless posts in this thread shrieking and shouting about 'attacks' on Islam and a 'full frontal offence' against it. LOL. What on earth are you so afraid of? Is Islam going to dissolve in the face of a bit of criticism?

I agree to a point.
You can't hold an illiterate goat herder in Somalia who has been raised to believe everything the imam tells them, to the same standards as British, public school educated, Oxford graduate Mehdi Hassan.

Endless posts? You're not very good at math are you?
I merely asked the guy what he does for a living and why are YOU so far up his behind for? I'm sure he can speak for himself.
If you criticise any religion out there beit islam or christianity, hinduism etc noone's "afraid of their religion dissolving in the face of criticism"; that's what you people choose and want to believe when we answer back to your questions.

But you don't answer questions, do you? Not for the last few pages, anyway. You just shriek and yell and scream about a 'full frontal offence' on Islam. LOL. A few criticisms on a student forum are a 'full frontal offence'? What are you so frightened of?

IAlso if these people are taking the scriptures literally, they clearly ignore that parts where no Muslim should kill another

or suicide is forbidden

Noone's frightened of anything.

why he has devoted his time to hate on Islam? It's a fair question. .

Then you need to be clearer

But to clarify you believe you need a scholar to interpret a scholars opinion

"Whoever is confused about any of the verses which are not entirely clear should try to understand it in the light of that which is entirely clear, if he is a scholar who is able to use evidence in order to reach conclusions."Otherwise he should ask the scholars, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“So ask of those who know the Scripture, if you know not”[al-Nahl 16:43]. I hope that clears out your misunderstanding, my friend.Now to answer the second part of your post.How am I trying to fool anyone when I have provided you with the verse and chapter number for you to look up yourself and even contact a scholar if needed?

Don't get me wrong, I do not deny that Islam is the major cause. But my issue is with this idea that humans are somewhat immune from blame for the beliefs they hold. With the resources we have available to us today, it is unacceptable that individuals such as Mehdi Hassan can believe that winged horses are real or that apostasy deserves the death penalty.

Point being that the ideas are wrong but so are the people for believing it.

Religious education often starts young. I was taken to Church pretty much every Sunday since the day I was born, plus I went to a Catholic primary and secondary school. So in a way, it is possible to live in bubble whereby you come into little contact with beliefs that differ from your own.

and this is one of the reasons why TSR is important : on TSR, most surely, people are taken out of their comfort zone and challenged to reflect on their opinions and beliefs

this is something that is dreaded by the "true believers", but usually they succumb to the fascination of debate and discussion : they are only human, after all

Muslims aren't the "Children of Israel", that would be the Jews, so doesnt even relate to them anyway, it always makes me laugh when they post that verse in defense of the killing verses.

and this is one of the reasons why TSR is important : on TSR, most surely, people are taken out of their comfort zone and challenged to reflect on their opinions and beliefs

But muhhh safe space....

in my view, nothing is safe from being questioned