Original post by animus01I haven't got the ability to give a positive rep after doing once already XD so am quoting instead to support what you are saying. In addition, the bolded part is particular eye-opening to those who cannot understand the job market and instead blame the students, when again I say, students didn't ask for it and yet, if any circle keeps happening in this thread, it's not understanding that students are trying to better themselves and to do well in their life. Nothing is wrong with that BUT what is wrong, are the fees that scapegoat students and make them the root of all evil - NO NO NO
I can understand that they are those that probably 'waste' as has been mentioned BUT that is why I am saying that tuition fees need to be revisited and changed, so that those who 'waste' need to repay an amount they can reach, and those who succeed and do well, are able to repay an amount they can reach to give back.
^ If this happens, then there is no issue SO for goodness sake, can people STOP blaming students XD Present your fight to the people that have the power to actually improve the system, than sending a message - 'I know the system is bad BUT if you can't pay it all, then don't even bother. I know society is prompting you to do your best BUT don't bother, because the pay you will get will not be enough and you will only be scapegoated' - SO! tell prospective teachers not to bother doing a degree because they, EVEN they, can't pay the whole fee EVEN if it will mean schools will lose teachers at a time the country is short on them
As I repeat what I said before, if anyone read my initial post - before tuition fees happened, the State with taxpayers money put money into education. The system of tuition fees are designed so that the State loans money to students and for students to give that money back (though right now, it is a big ask XD) and when they do, it will mean the State pays nothing virtually - a BIG change to how University education was before, and NOW because students are struggling, the State pays something XD
If you don't like how much, let's campaign against rising tuition fees and potential lifting of the cap XD Don't head-hunt students on choices they make - it is NOT just students that make bad choices - and if you deny that, well....
YES! even teachers can'y pay it all off, so! let's sort the system NOT the blame game
SO! now this topic goes from: students not paying > students are stupid > students are criminals XD wow
Let me make this clear, from what has already been mentioned in the thread but obviously skipped - degrees are not bought they are earned - there is no bog-standard degree, but given based on ability whether it be a pass, 3rd, 2.2, 2.1 or a 1st
I am positively sure that students don't like a debt on their shoulders, students actually campaigned against it BUT politicians put their fingers in their ears or lied BUT as a student myself at University, as much as I would prefer not to have so much debt on my shoulder when I have barely started my life's journey, I would like to repay for what I owe BUT as examples have been evidenced in this thread - NOT possible while fees continue to raise, wages not being high enough, finite jobs/places that are degree-worthy - that even teachers can't pay back
Are you saying teachers are criminals aswell now? Why don't we just scrap the whole education system because teachers can't pay and without teachers, why students XD - We NEED to revise the system to make it sustainable in the current economic climate, so those who leave University get the job that pays and able to pay back - I would just LOVE that