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Why Medicine and Not Nursing?

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final decision is down to doctors and they must accept ultimate responsibility.
doctors have a general education-even if theyre specialised they still had foundation, core and med school training.
doctors more likely to take a lead in research projects-nurses can and do participate in them
be sure to praise nurses and highlight that it is necessary for the whole healthcare team to work together to provide a high standard of care. there are a few other points but i keep each answer to two or three points- dont drone on
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Original post by glad-he-ate-her
final decision is down to doctors and they must accept ultimate responsibility.
doctors have a general education-even if theyre specialised they still had foundation, core and med school training.
doctors more likely to take a lead in research projects-nurses can and do participate in them
be sure to praise nurses and highlight that it is necessary for the whole healthcare team to work together to provide a high standard of care. there are a few other points but i keep each answer to two or three points- dont drone on


if you provide those answers you will fail

They want insight in the realities of clinical practice not tropes based on The Royal

your view of clinical decision making and accountability is incorrect and 40 years out of date ..

your view of clinical research is incorrect - who leads on research depends on the nature and scope of the research ...
do your own interview prep. not just expecting others to do your work.
Original post by zippyRN
if you provide those answers you will fail

They want insight in the realities of clinical practice not tropes based on The Royal

your view of clinical decision making and accountability is incorrect and 40 years out of date ..

your view of clinical research is incorrect - who leads on research depends on the nature and scope of the research ...

please go ahead and enlighten me on the *correct* answer. my answers are straight out of isc medical book....written by doctors
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Original post by glad-he-ate-her
please go ahead and enlighten me on the *correct* answer. my answers are straight out of isc medical book....written by doctors


Contrary to what you have mis-read Doctors are not the be all and end all of clinical decision making and denigrating the Clinical decision making abilities of nurses and AHPs will not go down well.

As a junior doctor you will be responsible for formulating diagnoses and management on the patients you see.

The providers leagally accountable for the care of the patient (assuming in patient setting) however are the Named Nurse , the Nurse in Charge and Responsible Consultant .

You have also been mis informed on research , Medically initiated research, by it's nature tends to be medically led , however other research will be lead by scientists ( such as pharmacologists) or by the most appropriate Health professional to the research being undertaken ... Nurses and AHPS are not there passively awating the instruction of the almighty Doctor.
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Original post by 1lastchance
do your own interview prep. not just expecting others to do your work.


right I agree with you. just wanted to know how others will go about answering. I'd go with the ISC medical book way.
tbh those who should do their own research shouldn't be using TSR lol............jks
Original post by zippyRN
Contrary to what you have mis-read Doctors are not the be all and end all of clinical decision making and denigrating the Clinical decision making abilities of nurses and AHPs will not go down well.

As a junior doctor you will be responsible for formulating diagnoses and management on the patients you see.

The providers leagally accountable for the care of the patient (assuming in patient setting) however are the Named Nurse , the Nurse in Charge and Responsible Consultant .

You have also been mis informed on research , Medically initiated research, by it's nature tends to be medically led , however other research will be lead by scientists ( such as pharmacologists) or by the most appropriate Health professional to the research being undertaken ... Nurses and AHPS are not there passively awating the instruction of the almighty Doctor.

i do not think i need this level of knowledge of the medical decision making process at this stage- i think the isc book may be oversummarising but itll do for now.
may i please ask where you got your knowledge on the topic as you seem to have a lot of it? ( not meant as rude, just curious)
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Original post by glad-he-ate-her
i do not think i need this level of knowledge of the medical decision making process at this stage- i think the isc book may be oversummarising but itll do for now.
may i please ask where you got your knowledge on the topic as you seem to have a lot of it? ( not meant as rude, just curious)


that might be 15+ years of involvement in healthcare ...
Original post by zippyRN
that might be 15+ years of involvement in healthcare ...


do you think the points i made earlier will suffice for med school interview stage and if not what is ideal answer to the question?
Original post by glad-he-ate-her
do you think the points i made earlier will suffice for med school interview stage and if not what is ideal answer to the question?


I haven't thought much about this, but I think you should focus more on the exact role of the doctor, and why that appeals more to you. What you posted above seemed a bit superficial, very thin on detail.
Original post by Chief Wiggum
I haven't thought much about this, but I think you should focus more on the exact role of the doctor, and why that appeals more to you. What you posted above seemed a bit superficial, very thin on detail.


i have included that in my why medicine answer,, i mean why not nursing
Original post by glad-he-ate-her
do you think the points i made earlier will suffice for med school interview stage and if not what is ideal answer to the question?


you need to avoid the trope that the clever doctor makes the decisions and the nurses do what the doctor tells them ( and in making that statement erase all the other HCPs)
Original post by zippyRN
you need to avoid the trope that the clever doctor makes the decisions and the nurses do what the doctor tells them ( and in making that statement erase all the other HCPs)


could i say the doctor is more involved in making the final decision or just cut it all?
Original post by glad-he-ate-her
could i say the doctor is more involved in making the final decision or just cut it all?


It's a presumption based on an old fashioned view of hospital medicine ... many patients in the community are treated without direct reference to a Medical Practitioner , or where the involvement of the Consultant is purley as a Consultant - rather than the senior clinician managing the patient ( as we see in many inpatient settings and hospital based outpatient settings and the Emergency Department foer 'majors' cases )

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