Is college in the UK generally more rigorous?
Compared to the US. According to U.S. news world ranking American universities dominate the ranking, but does the correlate with a better education?
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Original post by upenn
Compared to the US. According to U.S. news world ranking American universities dominate the ranking, but does the correlate with a better education?
US News is complete utter crap.
World rankings are more about graduate school than undergraduate. In the undergraduate level, I would argue that both have their pros and cons. Imo British undergrad education is better.
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Original post by wolfmoon88
US News is complete utter crap.
World rankings are more about graduate school than undergraduate. In the undergraduate level, I would argue that both have their pros and cons. Imo British undergrad education is better.
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World rankings are more about graduate school than undergraduate. In the undergraduate level, I would argue that both have their pros and cons. Imo British undergrad education is better.
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What is your reasoning?
Original post by upenn
What is your reasoning?
Reasoning about what? Why UK undergraduate education is better? Or why US News is crap?
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[QUOTE="wolfmoon88;69217566"]Reasoning about what? Why UK undergraduate education is better? Or why US News is crap?
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Why the UK undergraduate education is better dude...
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Why the UK undergraduate education is better dude...
American primary and secondary education is so inferior to the UK education and that's saying something.
American higher education is pretty much always ranked best in the world. I have no idea what those rankings are based on and don't know much about them tbh... but if only the richest are going to those universities or else people are taking out loans that are practically impossible to repay then you're doing something wrong.
American higher education is pretty much always ranked best in the world. I have no idea what those rankings are based on and don't know much about them tbh... but if only the richest are going to those universities or else people are taking out loans that are practically impossible to repay then you're doing something wrong.
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First of all, you specialise earlier so you can start building your knowledge in your field and start building up a portfolio for future jobs.
Second of all, American undergraduate education other than Liberal Arts Colleges is rather wishy washy because a lot of the times, the professors are focused on Research so they make the Masters and PHD students teach the undergrads. There are less interactions with students and professors.
However, since your goal is getting into Wall Street... Ivy League business schools or NYU Stern is most likely your best bet to get internships in that field during undergraduate.
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Original post by wolfmoon88
Reasoning about what? Why UK undergraduate education is better? Or why US News is crap?
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Why the UK undergraduate education is better dude...
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Why the UK undergraduate education is better dude...
First of all, you specialise earlier so you can start building your knowledge in your field and start building up a portfolio for future jobs.
Second of all, American undergraduate education other than Liberal Arts Colleges is rather wishy washy because a lot of the times, the professors are focused on Research so they make the Masters and PHD students teach the undergrads. There are less interactions with students and professors.
However, since your goal is getting into Wall Street... Ivy League business schools or NYU Stern is most likely your best bet to get internships in that field during undergraduate.
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UK is much harder. MIT students who come to Cambridge for year abroad say it's much much harder.
Original post by xbiostudentx
UK is much harder. MIT students who come to Cambridge for year abroad say it's much much harder.
It's Cambridge dude...
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Original post by wolfmoon88
MIT is ranked above Cambridge.
Original post by xbiostudentx
MIT is ranked above Cambridge.
Rankings don't matter that much for undergrad
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For clarification, I want to join a Wall Street law firm. So I need to intern the summer of my 1L year. Only intro classes are taught by masters students, for the most part.
Original post by upenn
First of all, you specialise earlier so you can start building your knowledge in your field and start building up a portfolio for future jobs.
Second of all, American undergraduate education other than Liberal Arts Colleges is rather wishy washy because a lot of the times, the professors are focused on Research so they make the Masters and PHD students teach the undergrads. There are less interactions with students and professors.
However, since your goal is getting into Wall Street... Ivy League business schools or NYU Stern is most likely your best bet to get internships in that field during undergraduate.
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First of all, you specialise earlier so you can start building your knowledge in your field and start building up a portfolio for future jobs.
Second of all, American undergraduate education other than Liberal Arts Colleges is rather wishy washy because a lot of the times, the professors are focused on Research so they make the Masters and PHD students teach the undergrads. There are less interactions with students and professors.
However, since your goal is getting into Wall Street... Ivy League business schools or NYU Stern is most likely your best bet to get internships in that field during undergraduate.
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For clarification, I want to join a Wall Street law firm. So I need to intern the summer of my 1L year. Only intro classes are taught by masters students, for the most part.
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Law firm is different then... I thought you were going into stock broking or investment banking...
Yes but even then classes are less rigorous because they are more general. Less specialisation because of the liberal arts system. You still have to take other subjects unrelated to your major.
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Original post by wolfmoon88
For clarification, I want to join a Wall Street law firm. So I need to intern the summer of my 1L year. Only intro classes are taught by masters students, for the most part.
For clarification, I want to join a Wall Street law firm. So I need to intern the summer of my 1L year. Only intro classes are taught by masters students, for the most part.
Law firm is different then... I thought you were going into stock broking or investment banking...
Yes but even then classes are less rigorous because they are more general. Less specialisation because of the liberal arts system. You still have to take other subjects unrelated to your major.
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Your major constitutes the majority of your class schedule. Hence, the name "major." While it's true that most universities do require electives, learning other subjects that may add to your knowledge of your major, or application of your knowledge in the future, could benefit an individual more than being specialized.
Original post by upenn
Law firm is different then... I thought you were going into stock broking or investment banking...
Yes but even then classes are less rigorous because they are more general. Less specialisation because of the liberal arts system. You still have to take other subjects unrelated to your major.
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Law firm is different then... I thought you were going into stock broking or investment banking...
Yes but even then classes are less rigorous because they are more general. Less specialisation because of the liberal arts system. You still have to take other subjects unrelated to your major.
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Your major constitutes the majority of your class schedule. Hence, the name "major." While it's true that most universities do require electives, learning other subjects that may add to your knowledge of your major, or application of your knowledge in the future, could benefit an individual more than being specialized.
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You could enrich yourself with outside readings... you do not need to take a course in it in uni.
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Original post by wolfmoon88
Your major constitutes the majority of your class schedule. Hence, the name "major." While it's true that most universities do require electives, learning other subjects that may add to your knowledge of your major, or application of your knowledge in the future, could benefit an individual more than being specialized.
Your major constitutes the majority of your class schedule. Hence, the name "major." While it's true that most universities do require electives, learning other subjects that may add to your knowledge of your major, or application of your knowledge in the future, could benefit an individual more than being specialized.
You could enrich yourself with outside readings... you do not need to take a course in it in uni.
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Same could be said for reading specialized books outside of your courses.
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You could enrich yourself with outside readings... you do not need to take a course in it in uni.
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You could enrich yourself with outside readings... you do not need to take a course in it in uni.
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Same could be said for reading specialized books outside of your courses.
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Is it better to have professors teach you specialised subjects rather than have professors teach you electives outside your major?
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Original post by wolfmoon88
Same could be said for reading specialized books outside of your courses.
Same could be said for reading specialized books outside of your courses.
Is it better to have professors teach you specialised subjects rather than have professors teach you electives outside your major?
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if you prefer to be taught by a professor and learn better in class. But the same professor could of easily wrote a book or research paper going in depth about an issue and you take notes and learn the material a different way.
Original post by upenn
Is it better to have professors teach you specialised subjects rather than have professors teach you electives outside your major?
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Is it better to have professors teach you specialised subjects rather than have professors teach you electives outside your major?
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if you prefer to be taught by a professor and learn better in class. But the same professor could of easily wrote a book or research paper going in depth about an issue and you take notes and learn the material a different way.
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True, people may learn in different ways. And that's why I think both systems have merits. Just because I like the British system better (and I think it's better because it fits me) doesn't mean it's for everybody. Perhaps for you, the American system is better and I understand that. (Oxbridge compared to Ivies, I would say Oxbridge is better in undergrad but that's a different argument all together)
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Original post by wolfmoon88
if you prefer to be taught by a professor and learn better in class. But the same professor could of easily wrote a book or research paper going in depth about an issue and you take notes and learn the material a different way.
if you prefer to be taught by a professor and learn better in class. But the same professor could of easily wrote a book or research paper going in depth about an issue and you take notes and learn the material a different way.
True, people may learn in different ways. And that's why I think both systems have merits. Just because I like the British system better (and I think it's better because it fits me) doesn't mean it's for everybody. Perhaps for you, the American system is better and I understand that. (Oxbridge compared to Ivies, I would say Oxbridge is better in undergrad but that's a different argument all together)
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