Students may have to apply after A levels

Why do you think school should start later? After all, one part of going to school is to prepare you for work later in life where you will undoubtedly have early starts.

What about oxbridge, I mean they could be considered exceptions because they have interviews.

But I think for oxbridge applications should be after results and interviews in early september since uni terms start in october anyway.

Never mind. If labour get in you may only be working 10hrs a week 👍anyway.https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/plan-10-hour-working-week-75-paycut-labour-9878450/

Front page of today's Telegraph

""Students may soon have to apply for a university place after receiving their A-level grades.
Under plans to overhaul the admission system a watchdog for higher education is to launch a review later this year into the recruitment system after concerns from ministers that some universities were guilty of unethical practices.
It suspected many where pressure selling unconditional offers in order to maximize revenue by recruiting as many students as possible."

This has been the situation for a while and it was only a matter of time until something was done. In 2012 there were roughly 2500 unconditionals made, last year there were over 60,000. Students are now 30 times more likely to receive one than just five years ago.
It's a gravytrain that everyone involved is desperate to keep rolling.

Wouldn't really work from the pov of the students applying... Imagine doing an interview in early September, and being told a week before you're due to start that you've been declined. Also complicates matters if you've applied to unis which start term in Sept.

Why do you think school should start later? After all, one part of going to school is to prepare you for work later in life where you will undoubtedly have early starts.

Front page of today's Telegraph

""Students may soon have to apply for a university place after receiving their A-level grades.
Under plans to overhaul the admission system a watchdog for higher education is to launch a review later this year into the recruitment system after concerns from ministers that some universities were guilty of unethical practices.
It suspected many where pressure selling unconditional offers in order to maximize revenue by recruiting as many students as possible."

This has been the situation for a while and it was only a matter of time until something was done. In 2012 there were roughly 2500 unconditionals made, last year there were over 60,000. Students are now 30 times more likely to receive one than just five years ago.
It's a gravytrain that everyone involved is desperate to keep rolling.

"Students may soon..."

A review is starting in the Autumn. Let's say it reports next year. By then, there will be a new PM and a new Education Secretary. There may have been a general election or the government may be clinging on by its finger tips, unable to force through even its choice of wallpaper in the Palace of Westminster. Assume that a general election result defied the odds and unlike the last three elections returned a strong government with a stable majority. Legislation would be introduced late 2020; would pass Parliament in 2021 and at the earliest could be brought in for the school year 2021/22 for students starting university in Autumn 2022. A more realistic target date is Autumn 2023.

However, in Autumn 2023 we are more likely to be sitting here still discussing the finer points of Brexit.

1. What if the concept of sixth/form college wasn't there and it was mandatory to stay on until you are 18. Vocational courses and apprenticeships could be part of the school curriculum for students who don't wish to pursue A Levels.... Just a thought

Wouldn't really work from the pov of the students applying... Imagine doing an interview in early September, and being told a week before you're due to start that you've been declined. Also complicates matters if you've applied to unis which start term in Sept.

Don't know for sure or anything since I'm not a biologist... I do essay subjects lol.
But pretty sure teenagers' natural body clocks are wired to fire up later in the day and shut down later at night. This shifts to more conventional work hours as you get older. So in terms of productivity for students (which are, ultimately, the majority of people in a school) it would really make more sense to have school start later.

Do you have any evidence supporting this statement?

Front page of today's Telegraph

""Students may soon have to apply for a university place after receiving their A-level grades.
Under plans to overhaul the admission system a watchdog for higher education is to launch a review later this year into the recruitment system after concerns from ministers that some universities were guilty of unethical practices.
It suspected many where pressure selling unconditional offers in order to maximize revenue by recruiting as many students as possible."

This has been the situation for a while and it was only a matter of time until something was done. In 2012 there were roughly 2500 unconditionals made, last year there were over 60,000. Students are now 30 times more likely to receive one than just five years ago.
It's a gravytrain that everyone involved is desperate to keep rolling.

the principle of this is very good, but i think to have a controlled fair admissions system would be very difficult in such a tight time span from receiving grades, applying, accepting, sorting accommodation, fees etc.

Unconditionals have now become common place and undermine academic achievement rather highlight a handful of the most talented/highest achievers.

The other problem is schools predicted grades aren't honest as some schools just placing predicted grades of AAA on candidates that have no chance, similarly some Unis entry requirements aren't honest. Personally i think more A-level data points would be better maybe split exams over 3/4 exam windows (and not allow resits) would be the best solution and yes im aware every 16/17 yo will complain about stress over worked etc... but the reality is if you go to Uni you'll likely have exams twice a year every year anyway. Having A-level grades from january & may in year 12 and January year 13 would enable Uni admission tutors to make a more accurate judgement.

But this will never happen anyway

As an a level student having more exams is better than doing it all in one big go at the end of two years anyway...

When i did A-levels (Sept 2012-June 2014) they were changing the system so in my year 12 I had 2 exam windows, and then 1 in year 13, but Unis had all my year 12 scores which were actual results counting towards my final grade, hence provided a better marker for what i was going to achieve, and standard practise was your year 12 scores were your year 13 predicted grades and schools couldn't inflated predicted grades too much as Universities has half your A level scores already.

Personally i thought this was better, i just think re-sits should be banned or maybe max 1 resit per student. more just an fyi but more exam windows will also likely mean slightly more exams as when i did A levels there were 6 exams for math/further math a level and 4 exams in the sciences with 2 courseworks as well.

I still have to do 7 exams in total for maths/further maths and 3 in each of the sciences so it isn't that much of a jump I guess. However looking at the AS exams they looked quite repetitive.