Iran summons UK ambassador over 'seizure' of super tanker Grace-1

Actually its a quote from the Spanish foreign minister. Again, you should probably read these articles before running your mouth off.

Yes heaven forbid I ask for a source

Question though, why are you getting so frightfully upset with my comment? I mean its touching and all that but slightly strange.

It's an uncorroborated quote from a biased source (they hate us having anything to do with Gibraltar and will use any excuse to denigrate us).



Not upset. Bemused is more accurate. You present yourself here as some kind of pseudo-current affairs intellect and only succeed in coming across as some glorified gossip merchant pushing your own agenda. Was more wondering if you're aware of your hypocrisy and childish approach. Evidently not. That's fine. Back to the unwatched list.

What treaty?

Harsher punishments for what exactly? They haven't actually done anything yet.

The EU sanctions on Syria.

Iran has already stated that they are going to breach the nuclear treaty and that is something wholly unacceptable.

That isn’t a treaty?

You mean the treaty that has already been rendered null and void? I mean which everside of the aisle you come down on with respect to the jcpoa being good or bad you can’t blame Tehran for breaking that.

Ok sorry my wording was bad, the sanctions, and yes the sanctions still hold. Regardless Iran deserves even harsher punishments for their breaking of the nuclear treaty, and yes I can blame them for breaking it, letting countries like Iran get hold of nuclear weapons is unacceptable.

You make it sound like they’ve made a dash for a bomb? Something that is simply not true in any regard. Going above the (already very low) limit on Partially enriched uranium is little more than a token gesture, and one that can be reversed quickly and easily.
Either way america was the one who broke the deal... why should the Iranians hold to it when the other party has ripped it up?

Just to reiterate a point though, there is literally not a shred of evidence to say Iran has had a military nuclear program since ‘03.

Already known that the UK acted upon a US request and that John Bolton celebrated it as "excellent news" and linked it directly to his decades-long quest for an illegal war with Iran.

If Iran is stupid enough to try to export oil to a nation embargoed by the EU via EU nations' waters then that's their own fault. Regardless of where the information came from, the UK/Gib operated within accordance with the rules in effect due to the sanctions on Syria.

Indeed, but from the articles it was at the err encouragement of Bolton and his cronies. Either way, sending a detachment of Marines is serious overkill...

Never said they were beelining a bomb but its pretty obvious what they are eventually going to be doing with this.

America withdrew, we are still part of it and so is Iran.

Actually, using 30 RMs is quite a small amount considering the size of the tanker - 330m according to the BBC (roughly the same length as a Nimitz class aircraft carrier). I'm certainly no expert on boarding operations but I'd expect the amount of Marines used was proportional to the number of crew expected on board the vessel. For conventional offensive operations, at least a 3 to 1 ratio is stated to be necessary but I'm not sure if that was the case here.

I was more getting at I’d assume this would usually be an operation for the cost guard or whatnot. Flying at a detachment from the mainland seemed a touch excessive

It's usually wise to use forces who regularly train for this kind of thing.

https://www.forces.net/news/services/royal-marines/royal-marines-storm-passenger-ferry-during-vital-training

Indeed.
Ha the name of that link gave me cause for a start just now Now that would be quite something to behold, if somewhat unsettling if you werent aware it was a drill.

I did wonder that myself. I'd like to think that at the very least the owner and captain are informed. Whether all the crew and passengers are I don't know.

Tick tock for the UK, about 1 week left, I hope they choose wisely...