I am American..

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I dont dislike the country or the people just some of the people that are so patriotic that it comes of as sheer ignorance, especially when you get told "America the best country in the world", or "We saved your asses in the war" which isnt even true.

I have no issue with being patriotic but when it makes your deluded into thinking every one is below you then thats when they become hated.

:/ I do understand where you are coming from. I just want to say that there are alot of us that don't that way though. I am proud to be an American because this is my home, it's what I know and what I love. I don't agree with many things in this country, but it's the same with many people from different countries (but not all of course).

Reply 21

Eldedu

12

Original post by Bellrosk

Why the hell do you need to 'learn' about this 'topic'? Are you really ignorant enough to believe that everyone in the world thinks the sun shines out of America's backside? Some people are (rather ignorantly) not going to like America, just how some French don't like Spain and some Japanese don't like Russians.

Quoi!

I had no idea. :angry:

Reply 22

Evil Monkey

11

Pretty much what Eldedu said, without 4, 5, 6 and 8 in the pro-American ones. And with number 8 in the anti-American ones said again to emphasise it.

Reply 23

Enoch.

16

Original post by Bellrosk

Britfag was invented on 4chan where the common practice is to call oneself a fag.

Which was made by Americans.

PS: I go on 4chan couple times a month, you may call me a newfag :cool:

Reply 24

adam0311

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Honestly I could really care less what others think. I do understand that the US is viewed unfavorably. Mainly because there are quite a few misconceptions portrayed in the media. For those who do have experience with Americans, its only through a visit on holiday...either Florida or New York.

Florida does not represent the US well, mainly the hick, overweight, stereotypical American...the only exception to this being Miami. As far as New Yorkers, they are brash and don't come off well...unless you understand their culture. Plus New York is full of tourists, so its not a good representation of the country.

Eldedu brings up the most stereotypical views. Basically assumes that whatever the government does is the will of the people. Which is quite unfair. Am I to assume all North Koreans are fascist nutjobs? All Iranians are the same as their president? I'm not even going to start on the assumptions one could make from the British government...it's irrelevant. Because the citizens and government are two separate entities.

Alharison4 is probably the most correct. The french are frog eaters, british are roast beefs and tea drinkers, americans are fat*****. All of these stereotypes are fueled by media.

Ask those who project hatred towards Americans, or any other nationality for that matter, whether they've met a substantial amount of Americans...enough to make a conclusive decision. Few have. For those that have and still hate Americans, I respect their opinions. For those that haven't it is just ignorance. I don't mind if someone hates Americans, just at least have some foundation and substantiated base of first hand experiences with Americans.

Reply 25

Cassandra_Z

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Original post by Bellrosk

Why the hell do you need to 'learn' about this 'topic'? Are you really ignorant enough to believe that everyone in the world thinks the sun shines out of America's backside? Some people are (rather ignorantly) not going to like America, just how some French don't like Spain and some Japanese don't like Russians.

Why can I not learn and understand this certain topic? I never said anything about everyone loving America. I have always been concentrated on the situations that we have within our country but never have I thought we were the most amazing country in the world. I never knew the Japanese didn't like the Russins, this is why I ask things like this. I eventually learn something out of it and get a better view on what other people think on America. I am not trying to convince anyone to like America or say that we are better than every country.

Reply 26

Blueflare

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I don't view Americans like that. :smile:

Every country has its negative side and its stupid people. Unfortunately some people infer that the entire country and its people are like this, which is stupid and wrong. People who have prejudices about you just because you're American are fools.

Bare in mind though, a lot of the time they're just kidding. British humour tends to involve criticism, of others and ourselves. :awesome:

Reply 27

Eldedu

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Original post by Cassandra_Z

Why can I not learn and understand this certain topic? I never said anything about everyone loving America. I have always been concentrated on the situations that we have within our country but never have I thought we were the most amazing country in the world. I never knew the Japanese didn't like the Russins, this is why I ask things like this. I eventually learn something out of it and get a better view on what other people think on America. I am not trying to convince anyone to like America or say that we are better than every country.

I think you're just relishing a little melodrama so you've set up this whole thread for you to "bravely and unconditionally defend your beloved homeland from the onslaught of foreign dogs"

but that's just my two cents.

Reply 28

Bellrosk

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Original post by ussumane

Which was made by Americans.

PS: I go on 4chan couple times a month, you may call me a newfag :cool:

The site was set up by an American (although inspired by Japanese imageboards), he doesn't exactly dictate the humour there.

Reply 29

Enoch.

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Original post by Eldedu

The same.

Have you seen Jon Stewart's parody of him? Comic genius.

Nope, but I am going to youtube it now that you told me :biggrin:

Reply 30

Spexzzz

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Original post by Cassandra_Z

:/ I do understand where you are coming from. I just want to say that there are alot of us that don't that way though. I am proud to be an American because this is my home, it's what I know and what I love. I don't agree with many things in this country, but it's the same with many people from different countries (but not all of course).

I understand that your born in the country that you come to love it, that's perfectly fine, its natural. I do understand its not everybody is like that. You always get those that come across as asswipes but doesn't represent the country.

Reply 31

amandacalifornia

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Original post by ussumane

UK gets bashed on American forums too. Who do you think invented the term britfag? I am not even British, but I understand a bit why they are harsh.

I'm not trying to be defensive, because like I said I don't care, but just so you know, Americans may poke fun at you guys plenty but I've never met an American who actually, vehemently dislikes the UK. In fact, you guys probably have the best national public opinion. :fyi:

(We don't get to see chavs in British movies :ninja:

)

(edited 13 years ago)

Reply 32

thatsmyjam

Original post by amandacalifornia

Why do you even care?

I agree. I'm an American, and I don't care.

That being said, I don't think I "love" America as much as the original poster. I would never consider myself a patriot. It has a few good areas, but most of it I could live without.

Reply 33

Evil Monkey

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Original post by adam0311

Honestly I could really care less what others think

There is this too. It may seem small but the sheer amount of wide spread stupidity America has in using this phrase.

It's I could not care less.

Everything else, the hate of all socialist aspects aside, I can let pass as cultural difference, and thoroughly enjoy a trip to America still. But this.

Just watch this video, it's short.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

Reply 34

Eldedu

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Original post by ussumane

Nope, but I am going to youtube it now that you told me :biggrin:

For the good of the general public, I'm posting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JnDY2Gv5YQ

(edited 13 years ago)

Reply 35

Bellrosk

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Original post by Cassandra_Z

Why can I not learn and understand this certain topic? I never said anything about everyone loving America. I have always been concentrated on the situations that we have within our country but never have I thought we were the most amazing country in the world. I never knew the Japanese didn't like the Russins, this is why I ask things like this. I eventually learn something out of it and get a better view on what other people think on America. I am not trying to convince anyone to like America or say that we are better than every country.

I know but the tone of what you have written thus far indicates that you are completely dumbfounded at the realization that some people bash your homeland. This blundering ignorance is perhaps seen as atypical of yanks and perhaps contributes to why you're not popular as you believe yourself to be.

In reality there's no real historic/cultural value to anti-American sentiment in the UK. Most people are indifferent and in fact quite like aspects of the States, and those that bash it really don't mean that much harm. I wouldn't worry yourself about it, spend your time researching real international conflicts (the Arab-Israeli conflict for example).

EDIT: Oh and I never said 'the Japanese don't like the Russians'. I said that there will be some Japanese who don't like Russians. Just as some people don't like chocolate. The chances are there are bound to be people of one nationality who dislike others.

(edited 13 years ago)

Reply 36

Enoch.

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Original post by Bellrosk

The site was set up by an American (although inspired by Japanese imageboards), he doesn't exactly dictate the humour there.

I know that, but c'mon, although 4chan is accessible through the entire world, which country is do you think most people there are from? Just post an pic and ask "where you from" and most comments you will get is not countries, but USA states!
I know because I've seen it.

And it'd obvious the term was made by Americans, they are the ones who say it the most too.

Reply 37

Craiky1506

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Original post by Cassandra_Z

I didn't realize how much people from different countries absolutely hate and resent the country that I absolutely love until I came across a post in this student website.

I know I am going to get bashed for this post, but I am already aware of that and am fine with that fact since I just want to understand other countries views.

I am American and I do know that our country isn't the best, but I am still proud to be born and raised here. For all of those who dislike me just because I am one, all I have to say is that you should really travel to see our country, to meet people here our different communities and backgrounds, and just to get to know more us instead of bashing us head on. I apologize for my rambling on, but if you were in my position what would you think? say? or even do?

I want to know what you dislike about my country and why? Please don't be too harsh, I am not trying to insult or piss off anyone. I am merely asking the question to understand peoples views and hear different opinions.

I'm not sure exactly where I stand on this.

I've been to USA twice and both times the people I've met & spoke to have seemed really nice. However, the (especially previous) USA Governments I simply detest, I don't think I need to put why (you may agree or disagree with the reasons of course).

Also, a lot of the coverage of Americans seems to be of mental religious fanatics, or just some mental people in general. I find a lot of the Americans who come on here on holiday a bit irritating as well.

It's a shame, because there are simply some amazing people in America and some great things have come out of there but the government & the coverage it gets just seems to put me off, it's also an extremely capitalist society which is not my personal preference.

However, I would never judge somebody because they're American.

Reply 38

Bellrosk

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Original post by ussumane

I know that, but c'mon, although 4chan is accessible through the entire world, which country is do you think most people there are from? Just post an pic and ask "where you from" and most comments you will get is not countries, but USA states!
I know because I've seen it.

And it'd obvious the term was made by Americans, they are the ones who say it the most too.

Yeah but the term isn't used as an offense. 'Fag' is pretty much interchangeable with 'person' on 4chan - 'newperson' 'Britperson' etc. It's not meant to be an offensive term at all.

Reply 39

Cassandra_Z

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Original post by Eldedu

I think you're just relishing a little melodrama so you've set up this whole thread for you to "bravely and unconditionally defend your beloved homeland from the onslaught of foreign dogs"

but that's just my two cents.

Your right. I got heated up from a different thread and now that I am calmer I must say that I do regret in a way posting this thread. I was never exposed to such a thing as being called an idiot for being American, but now that I have already read a few opinions I believe it's time for me to stop this post.

I am American..

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