How many medical school applications are feeble?

so people who apply but dont want to be there but end up getting in.

are these not feeble applicants too?

i'd say these are the weakest applicants of all. worse than any rejectee.

also i would add, pretty much every applicant has the skillset to satisfy a medical school's entry requirements. more like about 2% dont ave it.

the big dividing factor is the genuine and independently decided desire to do it.

If they get in they're evidently not feeble. I'd consider these unlikely to get in though (hopefully).

the big dividing factor is the genuine and independently decided desire to do it.

You're saying 60% apply with no hope of getting in?! That's a HUGE figure that i can't really take seriously atm - what are you basing that on?

As for the interview itself - i've never ad a med school interview that mirrored a job interview. the two are intrinsically different, but they do carry one similarity. And that is this - a job interview is there to pick the best candidate for the firm's development and profit. a medical school interview is there to pick those candidates most likely to maximise the profit of the medical school, by picking candidates who will stay the duration of the course, and therefore maintain the job security of the staff working there.

I agree that it isn't that large, however....you must think of those who want to apply. but have no exp. or insufficient grades,

eg. about 1/3 of my year want to do medicine, however I am the only one with the GCSE grades to even be considered for med school, I am the only one with exp, EC etc...

So, whilst 60% is too large a proportion, I would guesstimate it is closer to the 30-40% mark

i have a genuine and independently decided desire to do it, and a good application, however just got rejected from leeds without inteview.

sorry. im just bitter.

Well yeah like 1/3 of my year expressed an interest but in the end only about 1/20 applied. If you're 2011 entry you've still got almost a year for the 'unrealistics' to start taking their application seriously.

I'm gonna stick with 20%.

see blondi...the reason (as i see it) that you didnt get in and feeble candidates did, is that too man people apply..and theres no real way of determining a suitable mindset of someone ready for a medical career.

but there are dependable ways of determining applicants most likely to last the course. and at the end of the day, thats what med schools really want (i am aware that theres some overlap in chaacteristics for medical school lasters and career lasters, mind).

This is the thing though...cos we have 0 careers advice, they don't know their med school apps will be rejected...(I am 2011 entry) and, in a way, I am happy, it means less competition...hehe


And the only reason most of them want to do it is cos their parents/family want them to do it...typical asians
(despite bieng asain myself)

see, its funny you say that. if Jenson Button aplied and got into med school (i am sure a determined chap like him would pull it off) then would you say he was being successful by following that up?
Or would he be far more successful following a motorsport career to the top?
Life fulfilment is the only measure of strength or feebleness in my eyes.
All those unsuitable candidates who get in wif strong applications in your eyes are feeble for spending their years in the wrong career. they onlyave one life, after all.
If you are in the entirely wrong career then you 'ave flopped, becos life isnt a rehearsal, and you NEVER get back those years you lost ever again. thats a definite, its not changed by the number of A*s you get, not one iota.

This is the thing though...cos we have 0 careers advice, they don't know their med school apps will be rejected...(I am 2011 entry) and, in a way, I am happy, it means less competition...hehe


And the only reason most of them want to do it is cos their parents/family want them to do it...typical asians
(despite bieng asain myself)

no, macca. the other is for suitability for maintaining med school profit. in a job interview, you NEED to be suitable for the job, or else profit cant be maintained. for the med school interview, you need to show that you will last 5 years of the course for the same profit maintaining reason. There is a minimal need for skill level.

why is it easy to tell when someone is lying about their career choice face to face?
its actually point blank impossible for an interviewer to tell if a well preparedliar is lying. the prepared liar wins everytime, unless they arent trying or dont ave the nerve.

i fink your forts are very misguided for you to put those words to paper.
its incredibly easy to lie about the course, particularly when like a lot of applicants, you've been lying to yourself about career choice for ages beforehand.

the medschool interview is there to ascertain they will last the course. avfter that is of no concern to the med school itself, although as i've said, there is some overlap between attributes for good practice and attributes for staying the length of the course.

see, i find it odd that you can even type this with any real self belief in what you say...after all, why apply at all at 17, if you know that your judgement is NOT ready to decide on a lifetime career, let alone to yield up thousands of pounds of debt and the best physically able five years of your life?
you'd need to be out of your mind to do that, in any other profession/ major lifestyle choice.

about 'alf the medics i 'ave met and confided in 'ave admitted that they lied about something major on their application. thats just the ones who were 'onest!

i'm not sure 'ow that makes you feel about your ability to tell a liar from a non liar.

it dramatically improves your chances of getting in if you can lie competently, and it goes wiffout saying that lying is a trait that runs deep through medcial schools.
this kind of lying sadly doesnt improve self fulfiment, it merely delays or eradicates it.

but yeah, granted you are talking about the application stage success of getting in, not the wider picture of getting in whilst wanting to get in ( since getting in but not wanting to be there remains the most feeble form of fulfilment).

What are you on about? The % that complete the course is by no means the sole assessment criteria of med school.

All this does beg the question - who are these thousands on thousands of mysterious medics who don't want to be medics?! If you can't come up with a better answer to that i really cba any more. You can have your view that everyone who applies to medicine is a 'fake' (applying for a laugh, maybe?), i'll have mine.

We had a guy come and talk to us a few months back about applying to UCAS in general. He'd written a book on personal statements and had sat in on KCL med interviews. He reckoned about 1 in 3 were only applying because of their parents, because of the prestige of medicine or because they were bright and had no idea what else to apply for. He said it gets picked up on very easily at interview. I don't know if these people count but I just thought I'd share

If they get in they're evidently not feeble. I'd consider these unlikely to get in though (hopefully).



2%? There is a certain personality that is not suited to medicine, you know, hence why interviews tend to be dominated with moral questions. You have to be able to show an ability to think morally, work in team, be suitably socially competent and agreeable, etc. It is basically a job interview and does not just come down to who wants it most.