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Unsuccessful PGCE English application

Hi
I am looking for some thoughts and advice.
I have applied for a PGCE in English. I have a BA in history. I'm not keen on teaching history.
I have had three interviews so far and have not been accepted to any. I have to admit I was not expecting the interviews to be so challenging. I feel like I have more to prove as I don't have an English degree. I did not expect them to question my subject knowledge as much.
Should I continue applying for an English PGCE this year? Or shall wait for next year while I improve my subject knowledge- how embarrassing would it be to apply to the same unis next year?
Shall I give up on teaching and move on?
Reply 1
Have you applied for/enrolled on an Subject Knowledge Enhancement course? Because if you do that it should help with your application as it will definitively prove your knowledge/commitment to learning in advance of the PGCE. (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/subject-knowledge-enhancement-course-directory/subject-knowledge-enhancement-ske-course-directory#english)
Reply 2
Original post by userhep
Have you applied for/enrolled on an Subject Knowledge Enhancement course? Because if you do that it should help with your application as it will definitively prove your knowledge/commitment to learning in advance of the PGCE. (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/subject-knowledge-enhancement-course-directory/subject-knowledge-enhancement-ske-course-directory#english)

No. I didn't know you could. I thought you had to wait to be accepted before you can apply.
Reply 3
I thought I had to wait to be accepted before I could apply for the knowledge course.
Reply 4
Original post by Lamajama
No. I didn't know you could. I thought you had to wait to be accepted before you can apply.

I went to an open day with my partner to find out about an RE PGCE & most prospective applicants were from non-RE degrees - they were told to apply for a SKE as soon as possible to help with the application. Especially because not all PGCE providers offer SKE. (I'm personally not pursuing a PGCE so this could be wrong but that's what I heard one course lead say to prospective applicants - maybe, if you haven't already, talking to someone from Get Into Teaching would be the best way to get advice.)
(edited 3 months ago)
Reply 5
Original post by userhep
I went to an open day with my partner to find out about an RE PGCE & most prospective applicants were from non-RE degrees - they were told to apply for a SKE as soon as possible to help with the application. Especially because not all PGCE providers offer SKE. (I'm personally not pursuing a PGCE so this could be wrong but that's what I heard one course lead say to prospective applicants - maybe, if you haven't already, talking to someone from Get Into Teaching would be the best way to get advice.)

Thank you
Reply 6
Original post by Lamajama
Hi
I am looking for some thoughts and advice.
I have applied for a PGCE in English. I have a BA in history. I'm not keen on teaching history.
I have had three interviews so far and have not been accepted to any. I have to admit I was not expecting the interviews to be so challenging. I feel like I have more to prove as I don't have an English degree. I did not expect them to question my subject knowledge as much.
Should I continue applying for an English PGCE this year? Or shall wait for next year while I improve my subject knowledge- how embarrassing would it be to apply to the same unis next year?
Shall I give up on teaching and move on?

It sounds to me as if you turned up hoping to sign onto a course that will enable you to become and English teacher and they interviewed with the view of looking for someone capable of teaching English.

Have you read the English national curriculum?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7b8761ed915d4147620f6b/SECONDARY_national_curriculum_-_English2.pdf

Have you read the specification for GCSE English?
https://www.ocr.org.uk/Images/168995-specification-accredited-gcse-english-literature-j352.pdf
and
https://filestore.aqa.org.uk/resources/english/specifications/AQA-8700-SP-2015.PDF

as two examples. Once you have read the above documents, are you qualified to teach English or do you need to upskill yourself before you are ready to teach?

Teaching is all about knowledge. It isn't about reading a textbook and then teaching students although sadly too many teachers do actually do that. In my view, they are not the best teachers.

Good luck!
Reply 7
Original post by hotpud
It sounds to me as if you turned up hoping to sign onto a course that will enable you to become and English teacher and they interviewed with the view of looking for someone capable of teaching English.

Have you read the English national curriculum?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7b8761ed915d4147620f6b/SECONDARY_national_curriculum_-_English2.pdf

Have you read the specification for GCSE English?
https://www.ocr.org.uk/Images/168995-specification-accredited-gcse-english-literature-j352.pdf
and
https://filestore.aqa.org.uk/resources/english/specifications/AQA-8700-SP-2015.PDF

as two examples. Once you have read the above documents, are you qualified to teach English or do you need to upskill yourself before you are ready to teach?

Teaching is all about knowledge. It isn't about reading a textbook and then teaching students although sadly too many teachers do actually do that. In my view, they are not the best teachers.

Good luck!

Thank you for the reply
How do I upscale myself? I thought that they introduced knowledge courses so people could upscale thier knowledge while training to teach.
Reply 8
I recommend you brush up on subject knowledge and become familiar with the KS3 and KS4 curriculum. I'd reapplying next year I also strongly recommend you look into getting some teaching experience in the meantime. Such as through TA work, or even better maybe some ESL teaching experience. There are so many opportunities
Reply 9
Original post by FeiFeiLi
I recommend you brush up on subject knowledge and become familiar with the KS3 and KS4 curriculum. I'd reapplying next year I also strongly recommend you look into getting some teaching experience in the meantime. Such as through TA work, or even better maybe some ESL teaching experience. There are so many opportunities

Thank you🙂
Original post by Lamajama
Hi
I am looking for some thoughts and advice.
I have applied for a PGCE in English. I have a BA in history. I'm not keen on teaching history.
I have had three interviews so far and have not been accepted to any. I have to admit I was not expecting the interviews to be so challenging. I feel like I have more to prove as I don't have an English degree. I did not expect them to question my subject knowledge as much.
Should I continue applying for an English PGCE this year? Or shall wait for next year while I improve my subject knowledge- how embarrassing would it be to apply to the same unis next year?
Shall I give up on teaching and move on?

Hi!

My name is Ellie and I have a place to undertake an English PGCE in September, so I am quite familiar with the process. All of the advice already posted on this forum is perfect, but one thing I would add is to apply for a teaching advisor; my teaching advisor was incredibly helpful and the structure that they provided to me for the application and interview process was amazing. This link should take you to the page to apply for an advisor:

https://getintoteaching.education.gov.uk/teacher-training-adviser/sign_up/identity

A key thing is to gain as many contact hours working in an educational environment or just working with children; this is something they really consider when it comes to the application process. SchoolReaders are always looking for volunteers to help in their schools, and there is a brilliant organisation called CoachBright that operate as an online/in person (depending on your location) tutoring service.

I hope this helps! Try not to be too disheartened as there are always other options and support methods available to help you to get to where you would like to be 🙂 If you have any other questions please do ask away.

Ellie (3rd year English Language and Linguistics student)
Reply 11
Original post by Lamajama
Thank you for the reply
How do I upscale myself? I thought that they introduced knowledge courses so people could upscale thier knowledge while training to teach.

Well you can apply to join knowledge enhancement courses but my experience of one was pretty feeble. Read the specs. Do you understand everything on there? Could you answer questions about them in an interview? Could you get near full marks if you sat the exam by yourself? That is the goal.

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