'We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal'

Chinese/Indians work harder because we came here as immigrants, and therefore had no welfare system to support us. We brought our traditions of Scholarship and Achievement, much like the Jews, along with us.

Now americans hate the fact that we are doing better than they are. They invented affirmative action to keep asians out of colleges and jobs, and gave those positions to those who were white, hispanic or black. Have you seen King of the Hill? There is an episode where Connie, a hard-working asian girl, is rejected from Rice and is then told, just like I was by several American colleges, "we already have a boatload of smart asians, if you gave your profile to a white kid, he would be in here instantly." Her family breaks down, and in the end her father, Kahn, cries out "Why they do this to us? We come here poorer than anyone who calls themselves poor here. We work hard, we become wealthy. Then they tell us, you're all too smart, and f**k off."

It was a really sad episode, even though the series is generally humerous. I felt really bad. I made the descision from that point onwards that I would not give my money to a US university that treated me as a second class student. I don't think anyone knows how heavily discriminated against Asians are. Affirmative action goes against us, and we still keep quite. We work twice as hard as everyone else to get over that discrimination. We get a masters degree so that we can have the bachelor's degree job. Asians don't complain about discriminationm and instead work hard on getting to the top so we can prevent it from occuring.

Interesting.

However, it must be noted that the authorities are more selective in regards to Asian/Western Hemisphere immigration.

Come to New York City. Immigrants (including Asians) are not discriminated agianst here as the entire city is made up of immigrants. I have heard that minorities are not treated too well in the south (my friend's Muslim father couldn't get into any med school in the south because he was not a white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant). No reason to put up with those people.

You are right about affirmative action essentially discriminating against Asians, but I don't think it's intentional. Most people simply don't realize how successful Asians in the US are and assume that AA benefits them as much as it does Hispanics and blacks.

Chinese/Indians work harder because we came here as immigrants, and therefore had no welfare system to support us. We brought our traditions of Scholarship and Achievement, much like the Jews, along with us.

Now americans hate the fact that we are doing better than they are. They invented affirmative action to keep asians out of colleges and jobs, and gave those positions to those who were white, hispanic or black. Have you seen King of the Hill? There is an episode where Connie, a hard-working asian girl, is rejected from Rice and is then told, just like I was by several American colleges, "we already have a boatload of smart asians, if you gave your profile to a white kid, he would be in here instantly." Her family breaks down, and in the end her father, Kahn, cries out "Why they do this to us? We come here poorer than anyone who calls themselves poor here. We work hard, we become wealthy. Then they tell us, you're all too smart, and f**k off."

It was a really sad episode, even though the series is generally humerous. I felt really bad. I made the descision from that point onwards that I would not give my money to a US university that treated me as a second class student. I don't think anyone knows how heavily discriminated against Asians are. Affirmative action goes against us, and we still keep quite. We work twice as hard as everyone else to get over that discrimination. We get a masters degree so that we can have the bachelor's degree job. Asians don't complain about discriminationm and instead work hard on getting to the top so we can prevent it from occuring.

Not in the US. A vast majority of the immigrants to the US come from the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico (though technically they are not immigrants), Mexico, and Central America. The Chinese are next largest group, and the amount of immigrants from Europe is tiny.

It is the US I'm talking about.

Although I was reading a 1985 report on immigration.

Immigrants from Asia/Western Europe are bound to be doing better if it is more selective.

Does anyone know if that also happens in the UK?

How is it selective? Most immigrants come here due to quotas (which don't take any factor other than nationality into account) and family reunification (which don't necessarily favor any economic group). Canada has a selective immigration system; we do not.

It was selective until the 1965-1985 period when it was relaxed.

Hence my mentioning that I was reading an old report that is somewhat irrelevant.

Bostonians are weird though. I suggest you come to New York instead. We have NYU, Columbia, New School, as well as an excellent public university system.



There are only 2 million Jews in NYC, so I have my doubts.

Did I mention that I like pie?

The only orthodox Jew I know is a former chemistry professor, and there is a JCC in just about every neighborhood. Though I haven't been in one for something like 10 years.

That means you have missed out on ten years of Maccabee games!!! Oh no!!!