Should Gays be allowed to adopt?

lol, i wasnt just going to enter into a debate having read absolutely nothing on the subject and then make up totally bizarre statistics from a spanish newspaper that i read in barcelona. I cannot post the source in this case, for obvious reasons. And if the vetting process is so rigorous, then why are local/national newspapers frequently filled with tales of abuse or negligence taking place within households that have adopted children, referring to those who have 'slipped through the net' of an admittedly zealous, bureaucratic social services system?

lol, i wasnt just going to enter into a debate having read absolutely nothing on the subject and then make up totally bizarre statistics from a spanish newspaper that i read in barcelona. I cannot post the source in this case, for obvious reasons. And if the vetting process is so rigorous, then why are local/national newspapers frequently filled with tales of abuse or negligence taking place within households that have adopted children, referring to those who have 'slipped through the net' of an admittedly zealous, bureaucratic social services system?

well you'll forgive us for doubting the valiity of what you say if you are totally unable to back up anything you say...

and i dunno if you've noticed, but the papers tend not to report on all the succesful adoptions... yes, there might be fairly common reports, but due to the media's need to report bad, more profitable news, these uncommon cases cannot dominate the adoption system...

oh you anal bastards, surely from general reaading you MUST have picked up things that back up what i am saying, even if you did not stop to think 'ooh, i know, ill just keep this article for future use in arguments about gay rights across internet forums.'

It would really make this a whole lot easier if you would just give us one tiny little example. Your reluctance to do so suggests that you have something to hide.
You also have failed to reply to my last post, #886... after we spent all that time thrashing out Mill's theory of liberalism I'd've thought you would want to finish your point off. No? Maybe because it wasn't rational? Go on, prove me wrong.

I am confident that once i produce it, you will dismiss its validity regardless.

right, i will actually find the damn thing, im pretty sure i saved one article from a website in order to use it for my spanish oral exam about modern society etc. I am confident that once i produce it, you will dismiss its validity regardless. By the way, are you homosexual yourself or is this just a topic about which you feel passionately?

Well stopping ginger children being born is not something that can easily be stopped. Yes, I know we probably could but that opens up a whole range of other arguments that have to be weight up and therefore I don't consider it an analagous situation.

Your argument implies you accept that a problem would exist with children who were adopted by gay parents - so why won't you accept that we ban gay adoption?

While I was raised in a startight home, I had my chance at Lesbianism in secondary school and I still chose to remain straight. some of my friends chose to become lesbians. So you see I had a chance to choose to be a lesby but I made a choice, we discussed it at some poins and each party agreed that it was a choice that had to be made at one point or the other in your life just like wanting to change your sex

Given that you supposedly reside in Nigeria, don't they have problems with homosexuality anyway? If so I can't see this choice being a true choice as it lacks total freedom.

The term "gay" can also include lesbian couples.

Besides which, many children are raised in single parent families.

Ok well then for a lesbian couple the same can be said - that perhaps it would be better for the child to have a father figure. The children of single parents often can see both parents and therefore can acknowledge two parents of different sex as role-models, they just live permanently with one. Also, just because many children are raised in single parent families, this doesn't discredit my point - for the ones that only really know one parent, it might be better for them, too, to have a mother/father figure (whichever one they don't live with).

Been raised by a single parent is not exactly a thing of pride to the single mother or father as it often means they had to have a heartbreak to reach that point (it was not planned and they were hardly ever prepared for the phase)

so stop comparing as i really do not think single parents would appreciate been compared in the same light with gay parents

YOu know one of the wonders of Nigeria?
Its the fact that you have more freedom than most countries in just about everything (POLITICS EXCLUDED) especially if you are not staying in the northern region where religious chaos reigns supreme.

Many children have contact with only one parent [usually the mother]. Shall we remove the child from this obviously unhealthy set-up, or shall we realise that we don't live in utopia?


Perhaps it's just late, but I read through this five times and I still can't understand what you're trying to say.

I think it's disgusting even to THINK about gay people adopting children. is it fair on the kid? Come on, kids are MEANT to have a mother and a father. If not, how do they learn stuff from them? I mean, emotionally, that's the way its supposed to be. I mean, just think about it - you can't MAKE a baby without a woman and a man, so why should it be sensible to bring them up with two men - or two women. it's silly, it's perverted, and it's sick.
And dont start up about single parents - sometimes it's inevitable, but its not advisable, and once again I state the fact that a man and a woman together create the most stable environment for a kid, and if a man and a woman would THINK about how they are emotionally damaging the CHILD before divorcing, etc., maybe there wouldn't be so many hasty divorces.