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Reply 80
Original post by emiliebazza
Hey!! Don't stress! I think you should wait another year. :smile: There is no rush. Even for uni, there is no rush. Im 2 years older as well, and if i dont get in this year, ill probably go to university. If things dont work out in a few years, you should try for uni! But there is no rush! Even with MT!

With regards to Acting or MT; There are certain schools that focus on Acting as more of an emphasis such as Central, but Actors do singing classes too, and if you graduate you can always work in MT? Maybe that's something you should think about?

Foundations: PPA is a great school, and they're very flexible with funding. I live in Guildford, and a lot of my friends did the foundation and are now on the diploma there. They said the school was flexible with payment but it depends on individual circumstances. I can only assume that some schools might be the same? East 15 is also great for foundations and you can get Student Finance Loans for that course which is also something to think about.

Don't stress! :biggrin: You'll know what to do when the time comes! But i think you should defo audition cause even if you don't feel ready, it's all good experience, and when you do feel ready, the stress of the audition won't be overwhelming because you'll know what to expect!

Hope that helps!!
xxx


Hey :smile: Yeah I don't want to go to Uni this year ... I'd definitely rather wait a few years (just so much pressure from my family to go, acting wasn't in
their plan for me. I am supposed to get a "real" job) ... I'm not so keen on the idea of doing drama at Uni as I know I will end up teaching or something (my idea of hell !!!) So I think I would just like to wait and see how things go and then if I have to go to Uni, do something unrelated. Yeah I think I probably have a better shot with straight acting ... I was thinking about even doing an MA in MT or something.. Do you think it would make me less preferable if I applied for both acting and mt at the same school ? Yeah I know a girl at PPA and they seem to be pretty good with funding, I will just have to hope !! East 15 is also on my list, the only problem is they don't have accommodation so I would need to think about that first and where I could live ! Thank you, and good luck with drama school ! :smile: x


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Original post by clorida
Hey:smile: thank you! I will look into courses I could do. Circus school sounds amazing !!! Yeah I really don't want to to Uni but my mum and grandparents are totally pressuring me ... ( mums not keen on the idea of me not having a degree.. And my grandparents aren't the biggest fans of me going into acting, its caused massive family rows) They don't understand my plan... Obviously if I am getting nowhere in acting, in 5 years or so I might start to consider Uni and even doing a "real" subject but It's no use going after one year of rejection, that's hardly a realistic shot at all. My mum would LOVE me to do an MA at drama school after Uni! But I'm not so keen just yet. Although, I am quite clever I'm definitely not Cambridge clever haha, so that's out...! Yeah I meant to put East 15 on my list !! I have looked at there, they don't have accommodation though so I would need to seriously look into that and see where I could stay first. Thank you , and good luck with drama school!!!


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Ahh troublesome parents are very common, luckly my mum has come to terms with my choice because she knows I wouldn't fit into any other career if I tried. Its pretty much there way of protecting you as of course as you know acting is an unstable career and you can't always be in work. Just show them how much you want it by working really hard, take them to the theatre... show them why you want to do it so much (because theatre is an amazing thing :P) at the end of the day they can't have complete control over your future.. you gotta do your thing!
Another thing.. Join the National Youth Theatre... they help lots of people get into drama schools and are a good stepping stone if you're not quite ready.
good luck x
Hey guys i still havent made my mind about the schools im going to audition for cause im a foreigner and i have to gather up some paperwork first, stuff like personal statement etc. My question is since i've been in only one play till now and i dont have a lot of experience do u think i still have a shot at an accredited drama school like LAMDA or Central? Or maybe i should try getting into an uni cause i heard they are easier to get into.

Thank you
Original post by johnny.todor
Hey guys i still havent made my mind about the schools im going to audition for cause im a foreigner and i have to gather up some paperwork first, stuff like personal statement etc. My question is since i've been in only one play till now and i dont have a lot of experience do u think i still have a shot at an accredited drama school like LAMDA or Central? Or maybe i should try getting into an uni cause i heard they are easier to get into.

Thank you


I've replyed to far too many posts already :P.

Anyway... If you want to be an actor I would go for an accredited drama school without a doubt, drama at uni generally gets you admin jobs in theatres or teaching drama in schools so if thats the kind of thing you want to do then by all means go to uni.

If you think you don't have enough expirence try taking a year out to get some more expirence, theres plenty of stuff out there you just have to look for it. If you do apply, don't be dishearted if you don't get in, most people don't get in on their first time round and infact its really good experience and you'll be much better and more informed to second time round... and more ready for the intensive training.

Hope this helps and good luck!
Reply 84
Original post by rubymay1993
Hi! My advise if you want to be an actor is drama school all the way. But remember you are still young, you dont have to go strait from school to drama school, I've taken 2 years out to focus on getting expirence. I spent last year making theatre and performing and this year I am at circus school. I'm applying to drama school this year but I'm in no rush to get in as I know I still have time... and I am 2 years older than you.

Foundations are a very good idea, if you are worried about funding try and find the ones that are covered by student finance. I know that East 15 foundation is and is meant to be one of the best in the country. If you don't get in this year, make sure you fill your time with things that will further your career, don't just work in a supermarket for a year as when you come to applying again drama schools wont be very pleased with that. Try doing a course, even if its not in drama it could be dance, music (or like me circus) just as long as it inhances you as a performer, drama schools should be impressed.

Going to a uni will give you almost no chance to be an actor unless you go to somewhere like cambridge which has footlights and cambridge is probably as hard to get into as drama school anyway. Or alternatively you could go to uni and then do an MA at drama school afterwards but you would have to go to a good uni for drama (bristol, warwick, manchester) and you would probably have to get a first.

If you really want it you'll stick at it for as long as possibly until you achieve your goal and remember how young you are and how much time you have and don't rush into anything. Hope this helps and I wish you all the best in achieving your goals :smile:


What if you want to direct or write? I see there are courses in universities like York, UEA and so forth in drama, directing, screenwriting and so forth which seem to have industry connections. I understand about the being an actor advice and totally agree but what do you think about other paths?

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Reply 85
Original post by Vasso
Hello everyone!!
I will apply for a 2013 entry to the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland!! I am interested in Technical and Production Arts though and i'm not sure if there are any others here that are interested in similar courses :crazy:

I would like some help with the portfolio needed!! Do one have to send queue sheets and stuff with the degrees and other documentation or you show your experience at the interview??

(i am sorry if i made any mistakes as English is not my mother language:hide: )


Hi there! I'm currently studying Production Technology and Management there, which is the stage management, lighting and sound side to what was the TPA course before they had a bit of a switch around.
It's now two seperate courses, the PTM as I've mentioned, and Production Arts and Design - which includes props, scenic arts, set and costume design.
For my interview I get sent a choice of two plays, and I was to create plans/designs relating to the specialism I was applying for. I'm going to specialise in Stage Management, so I created a prompt copy, with each of the cues/stage directions etc set out, plus blank templates for lists etc. They went over my prompt copy in the interview (If you're applying from outwith Scotland I'm not sure how they go about that, sorry!) and asked me a few questions, I was also to see a performance before I came along and was asked to comment on it technically. I also went along with a wee portfolio style thing of different shows I had done, plus some designs from different areas of both the PTM and PAD course - ie, some costume designs, a few things I'd painted in college, and a couple of lighting designs.
Hope that helps!
Reply 86
I'm applying through UCAS for Drama/Theatre at:

Exeter
Warwick
Bath Spa
Brunel
Middlesex

I've also decided to go for one London school (LAMDA) and one outside London (Birmingham School of Acting) due to money constraints.

My question is, if I get accepted onto one of the outside-UCAS courses, and want to take that place, what happens to my UCAS applications? Am I committed to doing my firm choice, even if I get accepted by BSA or LAMDA, or can I simply reject all of my UCAS choices and do the drama school course?
Original post by RCO
I'm applying through UCAS for Drama/Theatre at:

Exeter
Warwick
Bath Spa
Brunel
Middlesex

I've also decided to go for one London school (LAMDA) and one outside London (Birmingham School of Acting) due to money constraints.

My question is, if I get accepted onto one of the outside-UCAS courses, and want to take that place, what happens to my UCAS applications? Am I committed to doing my firm choice, even if I get accepted by BSA or LAMDA, or can I simply reject all of my UCAS choices and do the drama school course?


You can always reject any offer you get, there is no one making you go :P. If you get a place at drama school before all your offers have come through on ucas you can just cancel your application at any time.
Hey Guys, I really really want to work in musical theatre as a career and have lots of acting experience and am really skilled with singing (currently having sessions with a renowned west end vocal coach) - but my dance experience is dismal. I take two 90 minute classes a week and I can pick up a routine and perform it, but i'm just not very good at it..(Not very flexible at all no matter how much i try to improve it and just don't look that good doing it..) If I'm applying for Musical Theatre Foundations at places like Mountview, PPA, GSA and Arts Ed, do you think I'll stand no chance of getting in? It'd be a real shame because it's what i really want to do and i'm highly skilled in every other area - just dancing isn't great - and there are roles (even in the ensemble) of some shows that I have seen and i think i'd be able to do with my skills. I also play piano to a very high standard as well as the flute so i could do the whole actor-musician thing - its just my dancing that's making me really worried! What do you guys think? :smile:
Reply 89
Original post by lizardsmithy:)
Hey Guys, I really really want to work in musical theatre as a career and have lots of acting experience and am really skilled with singing (currently having sessions with a renowned west end vocal coach) - but my dance experience is dismal. I take two 90 minute classes a week and I can pick up a routine and perform it, but i'm just not very good at it..(Not very flexible at all no matter how much i try to improve it and just don't look that good doing it..) If I'm applying for Musical Theatre Foundations at places like Mountview, PPA, GSA and Arts Ed, do you think I'll stand no chance of getting in? It'd be a real shame because it's what i really want to do and i'm highly skilled in every other area - just dancing isn't great - and there are roles (even in the ensemble) of some shows that I have seen and i think i'd be able to do with my skills. I also play piano to a very high standard as well as the flute so i could do the whole actor-musician thing - its just my dancing that's making me really worried! What do you guys think? :smile:


No, you will still Definitley have a chance !! The fact that you are applying for foundations as well makes it irrelevant that you are only good at two of the disciplines, their purpose is to train you as an all rounder. Don't let that put you off, unless you are applying to a dance based school ie. Laine or Bird, dance is really not as much of an issue as singing or acting would be. People frequently with no dance experience get in. I know a girl with literally about a month taking dance classes got into PPA last year . I also know
Of people with NO dance training at all who have gotten onto BA musical theatre courses at the likes of RCS. There are plenty of mt roles that don't dance much, especially the leads and anyway the purpose of drama
School is to teach you ! Go for it and good luck !! X


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Original post by rubymay1993
I've replyed to far too many posts already :P.

Anyway... If you want to be an actor I would go for an accredited drama school without a doubt, drama at uni generally gets you admin jobs in theatres or teaching drama in schools so if thats the kind of thing you want to do then by all means go to uni.

If you think you don't have enough expirence try taking a year out to get some more expirence, theres plenty of stuff out there you just have to look for it. If you do apply, don't be dishearted if you don't get in, most people don't get in on their first time round and infact its really good experience and you'll be much better and more informed to second time round... and more ready for the intensive training.

Hope this helps and good luck!


Not necessarily true - I've been at uni for less than six weeks and I've already performed for an agent from a huge agency representing dozens of West End actors and actresses, and although there are huge elements of theatre in the community involved, the majority of our degree is aimed at making us prepared to go out and act professionally - our course ends with a showcase at the end of third year, attended by agents etc.

It depends on the course more than on the type of uni/school - if you go for a BA Drama, I'm guessing you'll be looking more at devising and perhaps teaching. I'm doing BA Theatre, Television and Performance and it is very much a practical, vocational degree with the emphasis on leaving us ready to enter the world of work.
Original post by madders94
Not necessarily true - I've been at uni for less than six weeks and I've already performed for an agent from a huge agency representing dozens of West End actors and actresses, and although there are huge elements of theatre in the community involved, the majority of our degree is aimed at making us prepared to go out and act professionally - our course ends with a showcase at the end of third year, attended by agents etc.

It depends on the course more than on the type of uni/school - if you go for a BA Drama, I'm guessing you'll be looking more at devising and perhaps teaching. I'm doing BA Theatre, Television and Performance and it is very much a practical, vocational degree with the emphasis on leaving us ready to enter the world of work.


That sounds like a great course but my point is its really hard to be a working actor considering only 50% of drama school graduates end up working as actors for a long period of time therefor the % of uni graduates working is going to be even lower because they don't have the status of an accredited drama school. I'm just saying to up your chances drama school is a good choice. But i agree that your course sounds like you're going to be a lot more likely to go into acting than someone on an actual drama degree as drama degrees are quite theory based and don't prepare you for the profession.
Reply 92
I've been researching the university v drama school stuff. For those who are 100% sure they want to act then of course drama school is perfect. However there will be a large number of these future actors who won't get into drama school initially. Another pathway seems to be to take a drama degree with a high element of performance and acting content and then proceed onto a postgraduate year at a drama school. This means trying to save some money to pay for the postgrad year or to obtain a scholarship postgrad year.

The degree courses tend to be a bit broader and therefore can also let you develop other skills related to performing arts such as writing, directing, theory, production, lighting, film etc. This means for those who are still a bit undecided what they want to end up doing in performing arts the three year degree can be diagnostic and give you time to discover what your other interests and skills are. Usually its good if you can do a postgrad year after this too as it gives specialist training in whatever your interest has turned out to be, but its not essential.

Looking at the stats for the majority of drama and related degrees about 12% of these graduates seem to enter teaching. Between 5 to 23% may enter academic research (depending on the emphasis of the first degree). Another 16-18% end up working in the field itself ie. creative industries. Others enter professional jobs or other non professional fields.

If you want to see the specific stats for individual degree courses you are interested in then they are on unistats.direct.gov.uk which alows you to search lots of info about every course from how many people think the marking on the course was fair to how many graduates are unemployed afterwards!

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Reply 93
Sooo after much pressuring from my drama teacher, I am now not apply to foundations but applying to the actual BA degree. Reasons I don't like this 1) UCAS !!! It is mega stressful, I am doing it without any help from anyone and have no idea what I am doing. 2) I'm 17, the liklihood of me getting accepted is mega low... 3)Now that I am doing UCAS anyway my mum is pressuring me to put atleast one university as a choice.
I still want to apply for foundations... so at the schools I am applying to through UCAS that offer foundations (LIPA and Drama studio centre) do I have to apply for it in addition? OR is it likely that if they would consider me for a foundation they would just tell me from my BA audition?

Ughh I feel so young and scared haha...
My UCAS presently consists of (it may change):
LIPA BA Acting
Drama Studio Centre BA Acting
Central School of Speech and Drama BA Acting (how ever I haven't chosen a pathway? Maybe MT?)
Italia Conti BA Acting

and ????????
I really want to apply for the East 15 foundation as its the only foundation I can find that is covered by a student loan but should I put in a university instead? Or another BA course at East 15, Rose Bruford (I like the look of here!)

I am also applying on CUKAS to RCS. and maybe RWCMD? just because I have 4 more spaces.

Im not sure anywhere else, I like the look of LAMDA and BRISTOL OLD VIC.

A lot of the drama schools I would like to apply to RADA , LAMDA, OLD VIC, GUILDHALL, MOUNTVIEW etc are not UCAS.
So would I be better of applying to them instead and putting more universities into UCAS?
Not that i WANT to go to university.. but I am think I might defer entry.. see what is happening next year and then hopefully by next year I will can reject it for something better (it's just nice to know its there).
What unis???

I don't really have a lot of money, so I would prefer not to have to audition to every place in existence.. but I honestly don't know where I want to go. I would honestly be grateful to go ANYWHERE. In the research I have done, I haven't found a single school that I don't like the look of (this will be something to find out at the auditions) so where should I apply?

I think RCS will always be top of the list, then maybe Central? But after that I don't know. I want to apply to them all, unfortunately although I do have an audition fund with about £500.. I still can't cover it, considering I will be spending thousands going up and down to London.

Also the problem of acting or MT??? I still deep down seriously want MT, but think Acting is more realistic. I would still be VERY happy as a straight actor .. so I think I will just go with that. What are most MT dance auditions like anyone? That's the part that scares me... Anybody know? How hard etc? Mountview? Central? Arts Ed? RCS? Anywhere else anyone has experienced.

Sorry for rambling (as usual). Help and advice is much appriciated !!! x

Oh wait.. right this second I have decided I want GSA !!!
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Original post by returnmigrant
Which roughly translates as 'Musical Theatre singer/dancers in a minor named role' in a few 2nd rate, 'on their third recast', and touring dead-end-date shows.

Its hardly taking over the world of serious theatre as we know it, is it?


I'm sorry but it is incredibly difficult to get into UK Tours or West End show, either as a lead or in the chorus! Unfortunately you're argument has no substance.
Original post by emiliebazza
Is anyone applying for any of these schools for Musical Theatre?

Mountview
GSA
Central
Royal Scottish
LSMT

If you have, have you recieved an audition date yet for any of them?

Thankss
xxx


Hi, I've got my dates for Mountview, GSA and Central. Not going to Scottish as my friend curretnly goes there and it doesnt seem like my kind of thing and not going for LSMT as it is only a 1 year course and I've already done a foundation in MT at Mountview and I didn't feel THAT much better off for drama school auditions never mind for the performing arts buisness. Have you got any dates in yet? Are you applying anywhere else?

Thanks,

Amy :smile: xxx
Original post by emiliebazza
I have my Mountview audition in just under 2 weeks! Bah! I was wondering if anyone had any last minute tips or anything for the MT audition process? Especially when it comes to dance?

THANNKKKSSSS


I have my audition on December 10th. How did yours go? I've auditioned before and did the foundation in MT at Mountview but I hear it's a new head of music and dance this year. Is there any changes to previous years audition process?

Thanks,

Amy :biggrin: xxx
Original post by clorida
Sooo after much pressuring from my drama teacher, I am now not apply to foundations but applying to the actual BA degree. Reasons I don't like this 1) UCAS !!! It is mega stressful, I am doing it without any help from anyone and have no idea what I am doing. 2) I'm 17, the liklihood of me getting accepted is mega low... 3)Now that I am doing UCAS anyway my mum is pressuring me to put atleast one university as a choice.
I still want to apply for foundations... so at the schools I am applying to through UCAS that offer foundations (LIPA and Drama studio centre) do I have to apply for it in addition? OR is it likely that if they would consider me for a foundation they would just tell me from my BA audition?

Ughh I feel so young and scared haha...
My UCAS presently consists of (it may change):
LIPA BA Acting
Drama Studio Centre BA Acting
Central School of Speech and Drama BA Acting (how ever I haven't chosen a pathway? Maybe MT?)
Italia Conti BA Acting

and ????????
I really want to apply for the East 15 foundation as its the only foundation I can find that is covered by a student loan but should I put in a university instead? Or another BA course at East 15, Rose Bruford (I like the look of here!)

I am also applying on CUKAS to RCS. and maybe RWCMD? just because I have 4 more spaces.

Im not sure anywhere else, I like the look of LAMDA and BRISTOL OLD VIC.

A lot of the drama schools I would like to apply to RADA , LAMDA, OLD VIC, GUILDHALL, MOUNTVIEW etc are not UCAS.
So would I be better of applying to them instead and putting more universities into UCAS?
Not that i WANT to go to university.. but I am think I might defer entry.. see what is happening next year and then hopefully by next year I will can reject it for something better (it's just nice to know its there).
What unis???

I don't really have a lot of money, so I would prefer not to have to audition to every place in existence.. but I honestly don't know where I want to go. I would honestly be grateful to go ANYWHERE. In the research I have done, I haven't found a single school that I don't like the look of (this will be something to find out at the auditions) so where should I apply?

I think RCS will always be top of the list, then maybe Central? But after that I don't know. I want to apply to them all, unfortunately although I do have an audition fund with about £500.. I still can't cover it, considering I will be spending thousands going up and down to London.

Also the problem of acting or MT??? I still deep down seriously want MT, but think Acting is more realistic. I would still be VERY happy as a straight actor .. so I think I will just go with that. What are most MT dance auditions like anyone? That's the part that scares me... Anybody know? How hard etc? Mountview? Central? Arts Ed? RCS? Anywhere else anyone has experienced.

Sorry for rambling (as usual). Help and advice is much appriciated !!! x

Oh wait.. right this second I have decided I want GSA !!!


I don't think anyone's replyed to this yet so I thought I may as well have a go at helping you out.. just got to work through your essay :P

Firstly, don't bother using one of your choices for a uni if you don't want to go.. yes, you might not get in, you are young and its difficult BUT don't feel like you need to rush, give yourself a few years to get in as there is no shame in doing that.

Most places that have a foundation course will either give you the oppertunity to either tick a box or something saying that you would also like to apply to the foundation (rada does that) or if you are unsuccessfull in your audition but they think you have potential and ask you to audition for the foundation (I got that from drama centre last year) or they might just give you an offer or put you on the waiting list for a foundation (I got that from East 15 last year) I would definitly put east 15 as one of your choices as its foundation is one of the best and obviously as you know student finance supported. Italia Conti is one i'd be aware of if you don't have a lot of money because if you get on the course (any of their courses) you will have to fund it all yourself and it will be an extra stress that you really don't need when at a drama school.

Apply to RWCMD!! its amazing! its my first choice and I love it (personal opinion but still.. APPLY!) Rose Bruford is also really good and if you don't get on the acting course they might offer you one of these two amazing courses; European Theatre Arts or American Theatre Arts. I know people on both of these and they say they are INCREDIBLE and the course still includes all the actor training side of things and graduates go on to be actors, you also get a term aboard in the second year.

Out of the others.. obviously you want to narrow down your choices and its hard because they are all so good. I would recommend choosing maybe 1 or 2 from that extra list you have and not Mountview, not because its not good, purely because its private and you will have the same financial problems as from Italia Conti. I personally have only applyed to place supported by student finace as there is no way I would be able to afford it other wise.

Oh yeah and at central you audtion for all 3 pathways you just choice which ones are your preference so you have a chance with all 3.

I don't really know much about MT myself as I've not really done very much or done any MT auditions but I have done some dance for auditions (RWCMD) and they really made everyone feels comfortable and not under pressure and even though I'm not a dancer I really enjoyed myself and had lots of fun so I think you should be alright the key is just to enjoy it (:
xx
Reply 98
Does anyone know something about BA musical theatre course at Trinity Laban Conservatorie? I noticed that not many people apply there. Why?
Reply 99
Original post by Mlle_Em
Does anyone know something about BA musical theatre course at Trinity Laban Conservatorie? I noticed that not many people apply there. Why?


I went to Laban this week for an open day. Admittedly, I was there for the contemporary dance course, but they did briefly mention the MT course. From what I can tell it's held entirely held at the music campus, so I'm guessing there isn't much dancing involved (and if there is, it's not making use of the facilities available at the dance campus). Again, I don't know an awful lot about the MT course, but I guess this might put some people off if they want to train to become a 'triple threat'.


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