Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

Haha, between 8 of us! You can find Byron on the accommodation part of the NTU site

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Bad for England (or the rest of the UK). Worse for Scotland.

How on earth is that possible?

I generally thought he further you go from London-the cheaper it is!

I'm sure I could get better value down south!

Between 8?

Well next year you should really consider Unite accommodation!

I do think Scotland would be better off making decisions for itself because clearly, what they have voted for politically to date, is not what they are getting from Westminster.

We hear a lot from those in favour in Scottish independence about how Scots are on the receiving end of policies they didn't vote for. We don't hear much about how Scottish MPs have voted for the implementation of policies in England that a clear majority of the English and their MPs are against.

A good example is the introduction of top-up fees on students in England, in 2004, which would never have been passed by parliament if it hadn't been for the support of Scottish and Welsh MPs whose constituents were unaffected by the changes. There is no doubt that a majority of MPs representing English constituencies voted against it.

I think you'll find tuition fees will be on the cards up here at some point. I think the SNP are just doing it as a bribe at the moment.

Yes, but that was just an example. My point was that nobody is guaranteed to always get what they want and that, far from being ignored, the Scots can have undue and disproportionate influence over English affairs.

Can anyone who genuinely demands independence give me logical and rational reasons for leaving the Union, besides 'freedom' or wanting to be independent.

It's what I call the 'Braveheart generation' and the youth who are only demanding independence because they get free university as long as the SNP remain in power - I mean Salmond is even trying to get the voting age lowered because he knows he can't win without the youth.

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This video pretty much sums it up.

Oh and why do the better together campaign keep trying to take down the video?

You really do not know what you're talking about do you?

You really do not know what you're talking about do you?

Theyre probably not trying to take it down. It's just your nationalistic paranoia kicking in.


do please try and not just repeat what cyber nats elsewhere say. It can be quite harmful to knowingly put yourself into a paranoid state.

incidentally, you're you tube clip appears to be an advert not based on fact. You've just reverted to regurgitating newsnetscotland propoganda.


so whats you're take on Shetland and Orkney going fir home rule? I guess that's a spanner in the works.

Neither do you I assume. Typical response to say someone doesn't know what they're talking about in order to make your point still seem credible.

Give me one logical and rational reason for Scotland to leave the Union besides faux freedom and independence. If you get out of the Union then you're going to go straight into the EU and the Euro.

I live in Scotland and absolutely no one besides the youth or people with Braveheart on their mind is actually thinking of voting. There's no reason for it and the SNP have no idea what they're doing, they just appeal to terrible nationalism and paint England as a tyrant.

GIVE ME ONE, WALLACE.

What are you talking about? They have already got the video taken down a number of times. Convenient huh?

Shetland and Orkney can do whatever they like.

Do you actually read any of the Yes campaigns arguments? Obviously you haven't if you believe it's all based on national pride. Why do you wan't Scotland to be controlled by a government which does not represent or value Scotland's views. For example, 90% of Scottish MP's were against the bedroom tax. What happened? Oh, tough **** Scotland, it's happening anyway.

You do realise Wales and N.I are part of the Union as well don't you? So why do the Unionts act like it is some sort of anti-england agenda. Not to mention there are English MPs and English citizens within Scotland who also support independence.

An interesting angle might be how the debate has changed since the problems in the Euro zone. Europe will probably be less welcoming to small new members these days.
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