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Third/Final year in a BSC/University? London School Business & Finance? From France

Hello everyone :smile:

As a current student in France, I am actually preparing a DUT Techniques de Commercialisation degree : a 2 years degree which is the BTEC Higher National Diploma equivalent.


I am interested by the LSBF's Bachelor International Business Marketing and Advertising undergraduate programme and maybe would like to get into the third/last year for the 2014-2015 session.

In order to make this project possible, I need more information about the entry requirements.

I saw on the website that it is necessary to get the baccalaureat diploma (A levels) and to reach an IELTS score of 6.5 or a TOEFL score of 94. (http://www.lsbf.org.uk/france/bib.html)
Are these requirements relevant for those who want to study during the third/last year?

Furthermore, I have noticed there is Chinese courses, what is the average level required? I speakly Chinese fluently and want to improve it.

Otherwise is the LSBF good? I heard somewhere that this BSC is not well-known
Should I choose an another BSC or University?

I got my baccalaureat last year (A levels) with an average of 11,3/20 and actually have got an average under 12 and 13/20 (BTEC Higher National Diploma).


Do I still have chance to get into a great UK uni/bsc?
I am obviously motivated to success.


Thank you for giving this matter your attention :rolleyes:


Feng7
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Original post by Feng7
Hello everyone :smile:

As a current student in France, I am actually preparing a DUT Techniques de Commercialisation degree : a 2 years degree which is the BTEC Higher National Diploma equivalent.


I am interested by the LSBF's Bachelor International Business Marketing and Advertising undergraduate programme and maybe would like to get into the third/last year for the 2014-2015 session.

In order to make this project possible, I need more information about the entry requirements.

I saw on the website that it is necessary to get the baccalaureat diploma (A levels) and to reach an IELTS score of 6.5 or a TOEFL score of 94. (http://www.lsbf.org.uk/france/bib.html)
Are these requirements relevant for those who want to study during the third/last year?

Feng7


It isn't usual for students to apply to join the third year of a UK degree course - I've never heard of anyone doing it. The BTEC is usually used as an entry requirement for starting a degree, as far as I know. I think you need to contact LSBF direct to ask if it's a possibility for you. Admissions tutors are usually very good about replying - it's their job.




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Original post by Feng7
Hello everyone :smile:

As a current student in France, I am actually preparing a DUT Techniques de Commercialisation degree : a 2 years degree which is the BTEC Higher National Diploma equivalent.


I am interested by the LSBF's Bachelor International Business Marketing and Advertising undergraduate programme and maybe would like to get into the third/last year for the 2014-2015 session.

In order to make this project possible, I need more information about the entry requirements.

I saw on the website that it is necessary to get the baccalaureat diploma (A levels) and to reach an IELTS score of 6.5 or a TOEFL score of 94. (http://www.lsbf.org.uk/france/bib.html)
Are these requirements relevant for those who want to study during the third/last year?

Furthermore, I have noticed there is Chinese courses, what is the average level required? I speakly Chinese fluently and want to improve it.

Otherwise is the LSBF good? I heard somewhere that this BSC is not well-known
Should I choose an another BSC or University?

I got my baccalaureat last year (A levels) with an average of 11,3/20 and actually have got an average under 12 and 13/20 (BTEC Higher National Diploma).


Do I still have chance to get into a great UK uni/bsc?
I am obviously motivated to success.


Thank you for giving this matter your attention :rolleyes:


Feng7


You would need to see if British universities would accept your course, its possible it wont be compatible being from a foreign university.

Your right, LSBF is not well known here as its a private university which until this year charged far more than state universities and so was out of the reach of many students. And now especially students would rather go for a known quantity seeing how much money they are investing in their education. Consequently small private universities such as LSBF tend to be populated by mostly non UK students as they usually accept anyone who can pay.

My advise would be to go for a traditional state university, that will offer you a much better university experience.
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Apparently french students can apply to join some BSC/Uni the third year. Maybe not in every bsc/uni but LSBF's french website explains that BTS and DUT's students can apply to prepare the BIB within 1 year.

"Obtenez en seulement un an un Bachelor in International Business (BIB), l'équivalent de la Licence.Les titulaires des BTS et DUT suivants peuvent accéder directement à la troisième année du BIB :

DUT Techniques de Commercialisation

DUT Gestion Administrative et Commerciale

DUT Gestion des Entreprises et des Administrations

BTS Commerce International"


My current school is in partnership with the University College of Birmingham. Thanks to this partnership, I have the possibility to get into their bachelor programme for the third year. Nevertheless, the UCB isn't well known at all and seems to be one of the worst university.

Thank you for your replies and advises.
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Original post by Feng7
Apparently french students can apply to join some BSC/Uni the third year. Maybe not in every bsc/uni but LSBF's french website explains that BTS and DUT's students can apply to prepare the BIB within 1 year.

"Obtenez en seulement un an un Bachelor in International Business (BIB), l'équivalent de la Licence.Les titulaires des BTS et DUT suivants peuvent accéder directement à la troisième année du BIB :

DUT Techniques de Commercialisation

DUT Gestion Administrative et Commerciale

DUT Gestion des Entreprises et des Administrations

BTS Commerce International"


My current school is in partnership with the University College of Birmingham. Thanks to this partnership, I have the possibility to get into their bachelor programme for the third year. Nevertheless, the UCB isn't well known at all and seems to be one of the worst university.

Thank you for your replies and advises.


Ok, in light of the previous post, I would guess that colleges which depend on overseas students to a very great extent to fund their courses may be the ones which offer the kind of 3rd year entry that you mention. They may not have the best reputations, but the offer the opportunity to complete your degree in just one year. You will have to decide which is most important, quick results or a high quality name.
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"Your right, LSBF is not well known here as its a private university which until this year charged far more than state universities and so was out of the reach of many students. Consequently small private universities..."

As a prolific poster in TSR it's incredibly unfortunate that your giving false information. LSBF is not a Private University they are a private-for-profit college. I am sure you can understand why saying falsely that they are a University would lead to students visiting this thread being mislead
Usually a British University will only allow transfer into a 3rd or final year in very exceptional circumstances - such as the serious illness of a dependent family member.

This is for several reasons:
1) How will you complete exams or other final assessments for Year 1 or Year 2 courses you haven't actually studied?
2) Your previous studies may not match the course units at the British Uni - ie. you lack the knowledge to do the final year courses.
2) Unis concerned about academic standards do not allow you to casually drop in for 6 months study and walk out with their degree.

Your best option is to either try for an exchange year from your French Uni - ie, you take your 2nd year at a UK Uni but graduate from the French Uni. Or that you complete you French degree and then apply for postgraduate study in this country.
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LSBF has a partnership with GGSB, one of the best French business school (Grenoble Ecole de Management). Indeed the BIB's training is the 4th best bachelor in France. They teach the GGSB's programme and therefore they deliver to students preparing a BIB's programme the French degree.
Maybe it is interesting for French students to get into this training despite of its reputation in the UK?
Grenoble's school probably allows some DUT's students to apply to this training because they're convinced that these students should not have this lack of knowledge.
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Reply 9
Thanks for your comment Feng. It seems you had already made up your mind about LSBF are you a paid blogger of theirs? A French university that may have failed to do their due diligence on a private college which according to the QAA is academically immature is hardly evidence.

Look at the academic relationship LSBF has with it's UK Universities partners.

University of Wales - Ended due to issues with academic standards and incorrect advertising of none validated programmes see QAA website.

London Metropolitan University - Ended with the suspension of LMU's license to sponsor international students.

Glyndwyr University - Ended before it began after Glyndwyrs due diligence checks.

All of these things can be evidenced for anyone who wants to complain about my comments.
Original post by Feng7
LSBF has a partnership with GGSB, one of the best French business school (Grenoble Ecole de Management). Indeed the BIB's training is the 4th best bachelor in France. They teach the GGSB's programme and therefore they deliver to students preparing a BIB's programme the French degree.
Maybe it is interesting for French students to get into this training despite of its reputation in the UK?
Grenoble's school probably allows some DUT's students to apply to this training because they're convinced that these students should not have this lack of knowledge.


I agree with getagood that you seem already to have made up your mind about this course. The advice given here is that it is not recommended either to change universities at this point or to choose this particular institution. But, of course it is your decision.
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Original post by Collosopede
I agree with getagood that you seem already to have made up your mind about this course. The advice given here is that it is not recommended either to change universities at this point or to choose this particular institution. But, of course it is your decision.


Ah yes! Before I forget if you are genuinely seeking advice, then again I would have to refute the advice you were given regarding transferring into the final year. UKNARIC puts French Qualifications on the same level as UK qualifications. If you apply for a similar course of study as your current programme (the University will Map the credit hours and subjects - APL (Accreditation of prior learning). You may then be offered final year entry in any UK University that offers a similar course.

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