5 best club teams of the last 15 years

I think that from that ^^ we can draw that it is difficult to compare players that have both been successful. Both Viera and Scholes achieved wonderful things with their clubs during this time period, but they both played very different styles of football.

Ronaldo won a Ballon D'or, Henry didn't. He also scored more in a season than Henry ever did despite not being a striker.

Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez scored more goals than Henry, Bergkamp and Pires, and won a Champions League. As I said to someone else, you're overrating the Arsenal lot because they played pretty football.

Yes, but we're not talking about Cantona, we are talking about Tevez. Tevez didn't call his manager a bag of ****, the reason he was dropped from the Argentina squad is because Sabella had to make the decision to take Messi or take Tevez, as the two didn't get on. If Tevez was, as you suggest, the legend that Henry was - he wouldn't have been dropped for that reason.

Lol Messi would've been taken over Henry as well

The ballon d'or is stupid at times. Michael Owen won one ffs. Henry deserved it in 2004 and 2006. The golden bpl trophy was awarded to the Invincibles for a reason. At the end of the day, we Arsenal fans will label them the best bpl side whilst chelsea will point to ther record points team and united fans to ther 07-08 team maybe.

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I don't doubt that for one moment

So even if Tevez was "the legend that Henry was", he still wouldn't have been taken

Purely theoretical. Thierry wasn't a trouble maker - and is definitely better than Aguero and Higuain, so would have been taken over them.

I don't recall Zidane, Messi, Pele, Xavi, Henry, Figo, Fabregas, and Ronaldo all praising Vieira for his brilliance

"The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy – Scholes."
- Patrick Viera

Nonsense. Keane is who Vieira admires the most.

Made up quote is made up.

That Chelsea team will never be revered as much as Arsenal to be honest, there was no romance to it. Chelsea was like a machine...efficient and ruthless but tinged with evil. Kind of like 1974 West Germany. Nobody liked them, nobody wanted them to win. Even 1974 Netherlands are admired more than the team they lost to in the final. Football for fans isn't just about winning, it's about capturing the imagination. Maybe it doesn't make them the best, but they'll be remembered and they will inspire. Of course, people love a glorious loser, opium for the masses, and that may have helped the Netherlands legacy in a strange way.

Arsenal were more like 70's Brazil. Played a distinct attacking brand of football, took risks and were loved for it. They had individual brilliance in abundance. Couldn't be more different from Chelsea really, who were a system team. I know who I'd pay to watch, I know which group of players will be remembered in the future more. I think Chelsea were better at winning but will be largely forgotten in time, like a very fast car that's made of plastic. Unfortunate if you're in the minority who prefer defensive football, but that's the reality - it just wasn't as nice to look at.

Cantona was a legend and was dropped from the France team for calling the manager a bag of ****.

Your post makes no sense.

That manager left the position soon afterwards, subsequent managers didnt pick Cantona either...

Cantona did well domestically in an era when Utd were far ahead of the rest. Whilst he is before my time in truth, speak to most neutrals and they'll say that he was not an exceptional player and is remembered mainly as the first marketed star of the PL era and because of his personal charisma

I didn't notice this post. Sorry for the late reply!

Bayern had the better season of course, but I was arguing for Arsenal to be somewhere near the top of the list as they had an extraordinary season. They had the likes of the team in the image below and they played beautiful football that nobody else could replicate, going unbeaten for a whole season.



The Juve team doesn't come close to the likes of this team. Yes, they may have done very well in the cups of that year, but it doesn't mean their season was better than Arsenal's or Bayern's. It's like Manchester United's UCL win in 1999. They won by set pieces. Nobody remembers Stoke's successful campaign in the Premier League when they abused Rory Delap's throw-ins and rightly so.

The ballon d'or is stupid at times. Michael Owen won one ffs. Henry deserved it in 2004 and 2006. The golden bpl trophy was awarded to the Invincibles for a reason. At the end of the day, we Arsenal fans will label them the best bpl side whilst chelsea will point to ther record points team and united fans to ther 07-08 team maybe.

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and Leeds United once were top of a calender year table in 2000? Nobody cares.

Van Nistelrooy missed a penalty, then again had Rooney not cheated us in the 50th game then we may well have made 60 so it's all swings and roundabouts really. End of the day, if you are unbeaten over a season and then some, then it cant be luck.

What you need to remember is that when you're on an unbeaten season run, every team in the land wants to be the team that ends it, other teams up their games. Whereas other teams couldnt have cared less about Chelsea's 39 games.