Israel's a nuclear threat to the entire world

Not at all. The Israelis are doing targeted strikes notifying civilians to move out of areas whilst simultaneously shooting down Unguided Hamas rockets that are fired into Israeli territory whilst using civilians as cover to create an Israeli response to cause civilian casualtys.

I'm not seeing the IDF launching tickets from next to schools and hospitals.

There was an international lawyer on radio 4 a few weeks ago explaining that through the law of armed conflict the Israelis are actually playing it by the book. Its Hamas that are breaking international law by knowingly using civilians as cover and trying the cause civilian casualties.

The situation were in is that the Israelis are better at defending its Citiziens that Hamas are. In fact Hamas are trying to create Palestinian casualties for propaganda gain.

Have you heard if the term 'the useful idiot?'

So you class occupation, blockade and the continuing annexation of land as peace?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6709173.stm

Israel took that land as a buffer zone after the 1967 war. I'm not saying they were right to do so but I can understand from a military point of view why they did it.

If the Palestinians want to defeat Israel & have their own country, they need to lay down their weapons. Certainly in the West's view, Israel has the moral high ground even if they do kill civilians. However, Hamas deliberately targets civilians with almost every attack.
If you look back at the 20th Century, peaceful protests seem to achieve far more. Had did Ghandi create an independent India? How did Martin Luther King win civil rights?
If you take away Israel's moral high ground then you win.
& by peaceful protest, I don't mean Hamas gathering civilians around a rocket launching site so that Israel either has to call off the airstrike or kill people that were placed there as human shields.

Israel are still taking land, a few days after the ceasefire they announced they were helping themselves to more of the West Bank, but then had to back down after international pressure. Land grabs are not something that happened in the past, they are still happening.



I'm not saying that Hamas are right to be firing rockets, all I'm saying is that even if they stop, they still won't have peace.

Are you serious mate? The nuclear threat is Iran, NOT Israel. We (and anyone else who supports the model of Western democracy, religious freedom and equal rights) need to do all we can to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear arsenal.

I'm pretty certain there will be peace if Hamas weren't in charge of Gaza, if a there wasn't an Islamic terrorist group in charge, all the problems that face Gaza could be taken care of. Unfortunately Hamas doesn't want this to happen.

Hamas have been in control of Gaza since 2007, which is not when the problems began........

Hamas have been in control of Gaza since 2007, whorganisationsn the problems began........

Yeah the problems began before my time when Israel was attacked from all sides but managed to defend itself but I probably shouldn't have said 'could of been taken care of' even though theoretically they may have hence why I said 'could of' not 'would of', but in hindsight maybe I should of said the problems Gaza faces wouldn't be as bad if Hamas weren't in charge as they are an Islamic terrorist group.

Just to clarify I never said the problems started because of Gaza. Furthermore my stance On this is swayed by the fact I have a hatred of all Islamic extremist organisations as I would expect others including moderate muslims to have aswell.

Sure, I hate Islamic extremist organisations as well, I'm also not too fond of Islam in general.

That's fair enough, I see your point you're making. What's gets me alittle annoyed and I don't consider you one of them is the #freepalestine people who don't acknowledge that Hamas is part of the problem.

Hamas have been in control of Gaza since 2007, which is not when the problems began........

No. They started during rockets into Israel back in 2001.

No they didnt. And even if they did, UN workers deserve to die?

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Yes they did launch rockets at Israel, Hamas themselves admit it. And the rules of war say that if you obey the rules of proportionality, (which is itself highly subjective) then you may eliminate a military target. Using "deserved to die" could be applied to any conflict where civilians get killed. Pick your favorite WWII, Iraq, Kuwait...

Hamas is part of the problem, but I see them as a problem created by Israel. I don't mean that in a conspiracy theory 'Hamas were created by Mossad' way, but Israel has created and maintains an impoverished, hopeless apartheid state and this is exactly the type of environment where extremism and hatred can and will flourish.