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I'm looking a uni courses at the moment and am currently looking at primary teaching,

Anyone have an advice about uni's for these courses please

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it totally depends really on what you want to do.

If you really want to teach and can see yourself just doing that as a job for 40+ years, then its great. however, i have heard that it is very stressful, long days and all at uni along with placements.

However, there is ed studies, which is better than it first sounds, as you learn more about the education side of things rather than learning how to teach maths and english etc. it will also open you up to more carrier choices later on if you chose not to teach your whole working life. If you still want to teach, you will be able to go on and do a PGCE to go on and teach.

hope this has answered your questions and just as an FYI im going to do Ed studies next year after being rejected for the teaching and my plan is to go an do a PGCE after this.
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it totally depends really on what you want to do.

If you really want to teach and can see yourself just doing that as a job for 40+ years, then its great. however, i have heard that it is very stressful, long days and all at uni along with placements.

However, there is ed studies, which is better than it first sounds, as you learn more about the education side of things rather than learning how to teach maths and english etc. it will also open you up to more carrier choices later on if you chose not to teach your whole working life. If you still want to teach, you will be able to go on and do a PGCE to go on and teach.

hope this has answered your questions and just as an FYI im going to do Ed studies next year after being rejected for the teaching and my plan is to go an do a PGCE after this.

That's really interesting and useful, I will look into that more

Thank you very much
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Education Studies is an option, I applied to one Ed Studies course and the rest Primary Education. Ended up not doing Ed Studies as it really didn't appeal to me, even though I'm interested in education.

If Primary teaching is something you're really interested in, I say carry on reading about Primary Ed courses as well. There's some fab ones out there
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Education Studies is an option, I applied to one Ed Studies course and the rest Primary Education. Ended up not doing Ed Studies as it really didn't appeal to me, even though I'm interested in education.

If Primary teaching is something you're really interested in, I say carry on reading about Primary Ed courses as well. There's some fab ones out there
Yeah it is something I am interested in
Where are you studying?
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Yeah it is something I am interested in
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I'd look at the stats for trainee teachers. I wanted to be a teacher for a long time. I worked hard to for 1.5 years to get a place on a PGCE, working with children in a wide range of settings, including a school.

4 months in I had to drop out because I couldn't hack the 70-80 hours a week I was doing. I'd wake up, go to school, work through lunch, get home, have food, have 1 hour or so of personal time, do another few hours of work, sleep. I bearly had a weekend.

Now admittedly my course was 2 weeks at uni and the rest of the time in school. But...it's really hard going.

Someone else I know who is doing a PGCE was in hospital for stress related illness.

I think it's something like 40% of PGCE students drop out, 20% quite before finishing their QTS year and 20% more quit within the next 3 years. I might be wrong, but regardless the drop out rate is very high.
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Do you enjoy it? What's the campus and accommodation like
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I'd look at the stats for trainee teachers. I wanted to be a teacher for a long time. I worked hard to for 1.5 years to get a place on a PGCE, working with children in a wide range of settings, including a school.

4 months in I had to drop out because I couldn't hack the 70-80 hours a week I was doing. I'd wake up, go to school, work through lunch, get home, have food, have 1 hour or so of personal time, do another few hours of work, sleep. I bearly had a weekend.

Now admittedly my course was 2 weeks at uni and the rest of the time in school. But...it's really hard going.

Someone else I know who is doing a PGCE was in hospital for stress related illness.

I think it's something like 40% of PGCE students drop out, 20% quite before finishing their QTS year and 20% more quit within the next 3 years. I might be wrong, but regardless the drop out rate is very high.
Thank you, the drop out rates are quiet high so I shall have to look into it more
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Thank you, the drop out rates are quiet high so I shall have to look into it more
If you truely do 100% want to do it then there's nothing stopping you . But the amount of paperwork, the amount of organisation, the amount of sleep deprived nights chewed me up and spat me out!
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Do you enjoy it? What's the campus and accommodation like
I do enjoy it and I love the place itself. It's a specialism course, so you have your focus subject.
We have two campuses, one being main campus, the other being the Education campus, which is cool because we're all in one place. I end up on both campuses anyway though! With accommodation anywhere, I'd suggest going and looking around. Here we have a lot and you get accommodation both on and off main campus, so there's usually something to suit everyone.

Also, if it's something you really want to do, I wouldn't let drop out rates put you off. They're constantly in the news and whatever and it is a fairly high drop out rate, but I would go and look at courses and maybe try to talk to students on different types of course before you let it change what you're looking at!
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Drop out rates are extremely high for Primary Ed. I have two friends who are primary teachers and both wished they had studied another degree. The work extremely long hours and are so underpaid. The job demands a lot of them.

A lot of people say how amazing a primary teacher job must be because of all the holidays but they word right through them lesson planning etc. It's a big commitment, in university you are required to do various placements too.
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Drop out rates are extremely high for Primary Ed. I have two friends who are primary teachers and both wished they had studied another degree. The work extremely long hours and are so underpaid. The job demands a lot of them.

A lot of people say how amazing a primary teacher job must be because of all the holidays but they word right through them lesson planning etc. It's a big commitment, in university you are required to do various placements too.
Refreshing to see someone else who recognises that the holidays teachers get aren't actually as big as people think, considering the lesson planning etc.

And with every other minister of education changing the curriculum every which bloody way...usually without any solid evidence for improvement beyond their own warped notions of what a school should be like...
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Refreshing to see someone else who recognises that the holidays teachers get aren't actually as big as people think, considering the lesson planning etc.

And with every other minister of education changing the curriculum every which bloody way...usually without any solid evidence for improvement beyond their own warped notions of what a school should be like...
I did work experience in a school for a few months too as I was thinking about doing it back then and literally every single teacher I came across said, "Are you sure? It's really not as enjoyable as it looks etc etc."

Suffice to say they put me off but now that friends have qualified as primary teachers they are telling me the exact same thing. It's a shame really because teachers are educating our next generation, they should be given a lot more respect and definitely paid higher.

I agree, all all these new rules and changes are putting more stress on the teachers.
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I did work experience in a school for a few months too as I was thinking about doing it back then and literally every single teacher I came across said, "Are you sure? It's really not as enjoyable as it looks etc etc."

Suffice to say they put me off but now that friends have qualified as primary teachers they are telling me the exact same thing. It's a shame really because teachers are educating our next generation, they should be given a lot more respect and definitely paid higher.

I agree, all all these new rules and changes are putting more stress on the teachers.
They are trying to put you off because they do not want you to succeed.
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There is certainly alot more pressure put on teachers now. Data seems to be overriding the actual teaching.

I teach music across different schools and I find that hugely rewarding and enjoyable, as I'm doing what I love and don't have to deal with the *****y part of being a teacher.

I was singing with Reception children yesterday on Zoom and it was fab!
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I'm looking a uni courses at the moment and am currently looking at primary teaching,

Anyone have an advice about uni's for these courses please

thank you
Hi Stephanie,

I am a student ambassador for the ARU Primary Education Studies BA Hons degree. The university offers either a three-year, accelerated two-year, or blended degree option. The course doesn't provide QTS, but this allows you to learn all about child development and learning, the sociological aspects of a child's life, as well as learning how to teach, before you step into a classroom and are assessed.

You can find out details of the course here: https://aru.ac.uk/study/undergraduat...cation-studies and if you have any questions, please do ask.

I hope you find a uni that's right for you.

Katrina
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