Religious Islam vs. Political Islam.

The fact that we imported these rapists is also abhorrent.

The fact that we are still importing them is abhorrent.

The fact that the authorities and the media covered up their crimes is also abhorrent.

The fact that the left happily sacrificed 1400 young girls on the altar of multiculturalism is also abhorrent.

Wouldn't you agree?

Imported? You make it sound like we put a small ad in the local newspaper saying, "Wanted. Foreign rapists."

If "imported" rapists (and some of these men were British born) get your goat, one has to speculate that perhaps you look more favourably on British rapists? Do you? Does it really matter where a rapist comes from? Surely they are all abhorant no?

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username1799249

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Original post by joe cooley

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But conversely, our economy would be in tatters. Immigrants saved our bacon after the war and got us back up and working. We wouldn't be half the country we are today without immigrants.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but if you honestly believe we would be some sort of law abiding Utopian wonderland without immigrants, you are sadly deluded.

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joe cooley

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Original post by ByEeek

But conversely, our economy would be in tatters. Immigrants saved our bacon after the war and got us back up and working. We wouldn't be half the country we are today without immigrants.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but if you honestly believe we would be some sort of law abiding Utopian wonderland without immigrants, you are sadly deluded.

Two things:

When did i say i disagreed with all immigration, be specific please.

Indeed immigration is so fantastic, and i'm sure the poorest paid Brits who have experienced downward pressure on their earnings thanks to unlimited E.European immigration would totally agree.

Totally.

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username1799249

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Original post by joe cooley

When did i say i disagreed with all immigration, be specific please.

When you said "The fact that we imported these rapists is also abhorrent." You make it sound like we went shopping specifically for foreign born rapists which we didn't. Since you don't know if someone is a rapist until they commit the offense there is no way of stopping such things from happening. It is part of the risk of having a relaxed immigration policy. So if you find immigrant rapists so abhorrent, (as opposed to rapists in general) one has to assume you hold a dim view on immigration.

Either that you you need to make known your prejudices more clearly.

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joe cooley

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Original post by ByEeek

When you said "The fact that we imported these rapists is also abhorrent." You make it sound like we went shopping specifically for foreign born rapists which we didn't. Since you don't know if someone is a rapist until they commit the offense there is no way of stopping such things from happening. It is part of the risk of having a relaxed immigration policy. So if you find immigrant rapists so abhorrent, (as opposed to rapists in general) one has to assume you hold a dim view on immigration.

Either that you you need to make known your prejudices more clearly.

Do you as an individual believe that the UK would be a better place if these child rapists had not been allowed to come to the UK:

Yes?
or
No?

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username1799249

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Original post by joe cooley

Do you as an individual believe that the UK would be a better place if these child rapists had not been allowed to come to the UK:

Yes?
or
No?

Of course not. But as someone with their head planted firmly in reality, their visa application isn't exactly going to say "Child rapist" under occupation is it?

So my question to you - how do you stop someone coming to this country who goes on to commit offenses once they arrive if they have no past history?

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QE2

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Original post by iqra2159

How many more threads are you going to make about Muslims?

Threads against Islam is the fastest growing subject on TSR.
We ain't going nowhere. Get used to us!

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.Iqra.

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Original post by QE2

Threads against Islam is the fastest growing subject on TSR.
We ain't going nowhere. Get used to us!

I give a damn :colonhash:

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QE2

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Original post by iqra2159

No sir it's not

Say whatever you want it's not like anything's changing

Nothing's changing? Are you sure? Do you not read the news? Have you not read any history?

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.Iqra.

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Original post by QE2

Nothing's changing? Are you sure? Do you not read the news? Have you not read any history?

Can you stop quoting me I don't give a f*ck

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QE2

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Original post by ByEeek

Yep - pretty horrendous. But of course, all those murders, gun attacks, drugs wars, rapes and other awful acts committed by white people and not classified as acts of terror. They don't see us running for the hills. It is just one of those things we as a society have to deal with.

But if a brown man comes along and does awful things... quick, fetch the pitch fork.

The majority of violent crime is committed out of self-interest, often between people known to each other or in contextually logical situations.

Ideologically motivated violence that deliberately and randomly targets the public at large is clearly a different issue. To claim otherwise is disingenuous.

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Original post by h333

'Secular state' , I didn't know that.

It's not constitutionally secular, but it is generally secular in practice.

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Original post by Sadanon12

"Silence criticism of Islam" lmao, oh dear.
People are free to debate and criticise as much as they want, nobody is stopping him/you from doing so. No one calls for these threads to be removed? Paranoid snowflake.

You are wrong. I have been carded for "mocking others' beliefs" (this usually involves being critical of doctrine, rather than going "Haha, you're stupid for believing that"). Many of my posts and even threads have been deleted. I never post anything that is not supported by evidence or reason. On TSR, you cannot simply "debate and criticise as much as you want". There is a special interest group on here whose members stalk certain posters, reporting anything that challenges their beliefs.