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hildabeast

Nick Griffin has become the polished, digestable face of a disgustingly violent and inflamatory movement. The BNP are highly active in my area and whereas the old National Front were considered by many ppl to be nothing but violent thugs, the BNP under Griffin's leadership is sending out respectable-looking individuals canvassing for council seats. They are preying upon voter apathy and political disillusionment by attempting to convince ppl that they have policies on a wide range of issues, and masquerade as if they are actually bothered about holes in the pavement whist telling voters that it is the fault of the Asian and immigrant communities in the area that the council has no money to repair them in the first place. Yes, I agree Griffin is a shrewd man in that he has gained respectability for a completely dispicable movement, but how can someone with such a short-sighted view of the world possibly be seen as intelligent?

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He has high IQ
He knows how to use people to his own ends
He can distort and twist facts very cleverly

Being intelligent doesn't mean conforming to logical conclusions (ie that we are all equal)
J

Reply 81

DanMushMan

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foolfarian

He has high IQ
He knows how to use people to his own ends
He can distort and twist facts very cleverly

Being intelligent doesn't mean conforming to logical conclusions (ie that we are all equal)
J

Yeh, isn't there supposed to be a thin line between genius and evil....

Reply 82

elpaw

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DanMushMan

Yeh, isn't there supposed to be a thin line between genius and evil....

true intelligence is knowing that you know nothing.

Reply 83

RetiredAccount89

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DanMushMan

Yeh, isn't there supposed to be a thin line between genius and evil....

You mean genius and madman!!! hahaha
J

Reply 84

Jimothy

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elpaw

true intelligence is knowing that you know nothing.

I never knew i didn't know so much :wink:

Reply 85

Bumblebee3

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lala

Its not that new is it? I thought it was about twenty years old or something. Am I wrong then? anyone know?

Yes - I call that new! (esp. as it was being compared to PPE at Oxford which is very well established.) It does take time to iron out structural difficulties in multi-discliplined courses. The sociology element in SPS is sneered at by traditionalists who see sociology as modern, mediocre and incipid. I'm really keen for it to take off because firstly sociology is what you make it, and there should be a course for people who want Oxbridge that doesn't force economics. When I was choosing my course I considered PPE at Oxford but what put off because I prefer to examine more abstract concepts of humanity and didn't want to be tied down by economics.

It also helps bridge gaps - by including SPS at Cambridge a message is sent out that people wanting to enter politics or related fields from other unis are also desirable candidates. It bridges the gap between PPE and Sociology which will hopefully help diversify the world of politics. It will no longer be so exclusive.

Reply 86

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Haz

Don't make me cry! If you are really bothered by what you've read about SPS at Cam then take Arch and Anth (like me) and specialise in Social Anthropology. You don't have to take papers from sps if you don't want to. However, sps is in it's early days - if students don't give it a chance then how are we to develop any exciting, forward thinking course? Note that the students were not represented at this meeting. It is a very popular course and presently you have no way of being sure to what extent the management problems actually affect the students.

There are reasons to reject Cambridge but I wouldn't say that a few articals reffering to an ever popular course is one of them. Look at Social Anthropology and also find out just how much the problems actually affect the students before dismissing SPS.

This is a difficult choice, personaly, I would say Oxbridge for an undergrad (I myself am an LSE grad.) That's because LSE is not concerned about teaching, it's primary concern is research.

As for Politics research faculty is concerned, i.e. if you were thinking of a PhD, then the difference in research and research prestige between Cambridge Politics and LSE is absolutely massive. LSE's 'Political Science' combines dept's of International Relations, Government, Development Institute, it's one of the few depts that's not entirely laughable when comparing research output as against the major Ivy league players.

However, research output doesn't matter a great deal for you. Go look at the two Univ.,choose on the basis of surroundings.

Reply 87

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Bigcnee

Cambridge > Oxford > LSE

hmm*cough*nottingham*cough*>cambridge>lse>oxford.

oxford never appealed to me, don't know why.

anyway this seer guy just sounds a bit bitter that he simply wouldnt stand a chance of getting to oxbridge, diddums.

Reply 88

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africac

Hey let's get back to the acadmics and stop the insults! LSE now my top choice to study Political Science. I was thinking of doing SPS at Cambridge (Political Sciences & Sociology & Soc Anthropology). But I’ve changed my mind after reading these pages. Anyone else got good recommendations, views, on where to do politics / social sciences????

hmm i applied for sps at cambridge(isnt it psych,politics and social anthro? i got asked a lot of psych questions in my interview)but looking back even if i'd been accepted the sps degree is basically viewed on the same level as land management or any of the other "easy" degrees used to get into cambridge.

PPE on the other hand is very well respected but i'm guessing it's too late to apply for that, LSE is easily the most respected politically but i've heard essex is as well(i wouldnt have thought it but ah well)

I'm currently doing politics at nottingham, am not sure its best in the country or whatever but if international relations is more your focus its one of the few uni's that doesnt simply focus on british politics(ahhh boooooring)

Other than that i guess sheffield, warwick and edinburgh would be good options, i've heard manchester is good as well.

Hope that helps.

Reply 89

Bigcnee

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hmm*cough*nottingham*cough*>cambridge>lse>oxford.

oxford never appealed to me, don't know why.

anyway this seer guy just sounds a bit bitter that he simply wouldnt stand a chance of getting to oxbridge, diddums.

I heard Nottingham is a hole.

Reply 90

mikesgt2

I cannot believe that this discussion has gone on longer than a page. Shall we just accept that LSE, Oxford and Cambridge are all excellent universities?

Reply 91

Unregistered

Manchester>LSE\Oxbridge etc. :biggrin:

Reply 92

elpaw

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Unregistered

hmm*cough*nottingham*cough*>cambridge>lse>oxford.

oxford never appealed to me, don't know why.

anyway this seer guy just sounds a bit bitter that he simply wouldnt stand a chance of getting to oxbridge, diddums.

oxford never really appealed to me anyway, but im still here and having a great time along the way

Reply 93

RetiredAccount89

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Bigcnee

I heard Nottingham is a hole.

social life is ok, but tis one fo the most dangerous places in britain to go out in.
lots of guns there, and lots of peeps carry knives
J

Reply 94

Bo!Selecta

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africac

Hey let's get back to the acadmics and stop the insults! LSE now my top choice to study Political Science. I was thinking of doing SPS at Cambridge (Political Sciences & Sociology & Soc Anthropology). But I’ve changed my mind after reading these pages. Anyone else got good recommendations, views, on where to do politics / social sciences????

SPS Tripos about to "CRACK" http://www.varsity.cam.ac.uk/8025694E0073CFEB/Pages/2512002_SPSTRIPOSABOUT.html
“SPSed off!”
http://www.varsity.cam.ac.uk/8025694E0073CFEB/Pages/2712000_Morechaosin.html
And here is what the QAA says, the government watchdog
http://www.qaa.ac.uk/revreps/subjre...01_textonly.htm

Several colleges got top marks... but not Cambridge because of bad management and bad coordination on the SPS Social and Political Sciences Courses course. Confirmed by Cambridge itself in its Varsity newspaper, in the links above.

I am studying SPS at Cambridge - I can tell you that it is a well regarded degree and, should it be Psychology that you or anyone else is interested in, the degree has British Psychological Society accreditation. Most choose to do the Politics scheme but, whether you are interested in Sociology, Politics or Psychology, it shouldn't really matter what other people think - it's what is best for you. And you can combine or drop them how you please in your second and third years. Sure, the Faculty itself admits that SPS is disorganised in that the Sociology, Politics and Psychology departments are separate entities (without the best communication between them) but this is slightly reassuring in that they take each subject so seriously in itself.

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