Unable to find a date (24m)

I'm 24, still at uni because I didn't start till late (22). Haven't had a gf or even a date since Primary school. Tried asking out plenty of girls at Secondary, 6th Form College, University, church, sports clubs, online dating etc... Never manage to find anybody that wants me back. Have plenty of female friends but after I've expressed romantic interest in them, even if we stay friends, I can see that they change around me. They look at me differently and frequently seem to be uncomfortable. Never met any women my age through my job and I have a job while at uni and again, never get to meet any women my age. I've tried a few times meeting girls in pubs and clubs but it just isn't really my scene and I feel awkward. I'm probably average looking (maybe slightly better or worse), I have tons of hobbies (history, politics, theology, target shooting, fencing), I go out to events, days out, holidays (U.K. and abroad), go to church (I've been to many different churches of different denominations), joined tons of uni societies (geography, politics, Christian, fencing, dancing etc...), I try to be ambitious now with studies and prospective careers, I drive my own car, go out with friends etc... I'm confident, I can make myself presentable, I can do small talk, I take any interest in the personalities and lives of the women I'm interested in, I've done volunteer work etc... Still I'm always super lonely. I've come to the realisation that I'm probably always going to be alone and never meet anyone. I don't want this to be the case but I pretty much give up. I've tried meeting people in a fairly large town where I'm from, in the nearby villages and in a fairly big city where I'm currently at uni.

bro they will come to u, ur in a villege what do u expect? get some drip and get some rizz and ur sorted

What dating apps have you tried and what sorts of dating only specific events have you done?

listen yh to get girls u need to look presentable , if u look like a nerd or a meedy guy no girl is gonna like u.
hit the gym, get a trim, use vaseline and get some drip and they'll flock to u

but if u look clapped and busted the will run away

I'm 24, still at uni because I didn't start till late (22). Haven't had a gf or even a date since Primary school. Tried asking out plenty of girls at Secondary, 6th Form College, University, church, sports clubs, online dating etc... Never manage to find anybody that wants me back. Have plenty of female friends but after I've expressed romantic interest in them, even if we stay friends, I can see that they change around me. They look at me differently and frequently seem to be uncomfortable. Never met any women my age through my job and I have a job while at uni and again, never get to meet any women my age. I've tried a few times meeting girls in pubs and clubs but it just isn't really my scene and I feel awkward. I'm probably average looking (maybe slightly better or worse), I have tons of hobbies (history, politics, theology, target shooting, fencing), I go out to events, days out, holidays (U.K. and abroad), go to church (I've been to many different churches of different denominations), joined tons of uni societies (geography, politics, Christian, fencing, dancing etc...), I try to be ambitious now with studies and prospective careers, I drive my own car, go out with friends etc... I'm confident, I can make myself presentable, I can do small talk, I take any interest in the personalities and lives of the women I'm interested in, I've done volunteer work etc... Still I'm always super lonely. I've come to the realisation that I'm probably always going to be alone and never meet anyone. I don't want this to be the case but I pretty much give up. I've tried meeting people in a fairly large town where I'm from, in the nearby villages and in a fairly big city where I'm currently at uni.

I’m a woman. I’ll give some advice clothing wise and I read you wear tracksuits. BIN THEM I repeat BIN THEM (or sell them lol). They look awful I’m sorry but I’m being honest. Good that you take care of yourself otherwise tho. Clothing brands that are trendy atm include carhartt, urban outfitters (Ik not a brand but they sell fashionable stuff for men) and Etsy (another shop but good stuff). Try and find your own style- what music do you listen to? I could help you more (this sounds weird but it’ll help me workout what vibes you have perhaps). But yeah, men that dress well hands down are more attractive. If you’re average looking but dress well and have good hygiene you’re already above average overall in my books. Also find a nice daily scent to wear bc men that smell nice are a plus too. I hope that helps n lmk about the clothing stuff

I don’t really know much about clothing brands. I sometimes wear shirts & smart shoes such as for church. I’ll sometimes also wear blazers.

As for music, I mainly like classical music but I also like plenty of other stuff with British bands including Keane, Oasis, Frank Ferdinand etc… & American bands including Green Day, The Killers, Kiss etc... I’ve tried to broaden my horizons more so I’ll listen to pop like Kylie, rap like Dr. Dre, rock like White Zombie, country like Johnny Cash & classics like Sinatra.

If it helps, my other interests include football, samurai films, theology lectures & business/financial news.

May just be me, I'm a guy (I'm in my mid forties) but that sounds like stuff from when I was younger way back in the day. Surely that music is all very past it now and not on trend with the young.

Thing is just like in the day of my youth (I'm guessing still the same) if you mention you are into stuff way back of a previous generation your peers will see it as a bit of a laugh. They may not laugh in your face but your street cred as we called it goes down. Your peers won't respect you in terms of the all important 'being on trend', 'with it', etc on their level and though they probably see you as a nice guy, they won't rate you as worthy to be seen dating.

May just be me, I'm a guy (I'm in my mid forties) but that sounds like stuff from when I was younger way back in the day. Surely that music is all very past it now and not on trend with the young.

Thing is just like in the day of my youth (I'm guessing still the same) if you mention you are into stuff way back of a previous generation your peers will see it as a bit of a laugh. They may not laugh in your face but your street cred as we called it goes down. Your peers won't respect you in terms of the all important 'being on trend', 'with it', etc on their level and though they probably see you as a nice guy, they won't rate you as worthy to be seen dating.

Your interests are your interests, in fact I like many of them (minus theology) but they aren't what I would knowingly let girls know I like unless I knew they took a particular interest in one of them. History I like, Politics I have passing interest in but both are seen as geeky, particularly Politics. If you're seen as a geek that is normally a negative with the girls. Even girls that are into say History may not necessarily want their potential bf to be into history but may want what they see as a more many guy either muscles or masculine blue collar job possibly.

I'm not saying change who you are completely in all of this as you don't want to be fake, but I'm saying think about what you put out, how you might be perceived and consider moderating your image.

In general a lot of girls aren't that bothered about dating and relationships these days. Unless they see a man who rocks their world they would rather just do their career. So gaining a big positive like a good physique, good income job, etc may help you, but in general while enjoy what you enjoy I would kind of keep quiet on a lot of the more geeky elements or stuff women wouldn't really get with like samurai films etc. I'm not saying watch girlie stuff just consider how a girl would view you and whether they would see you as dateable material they would want to get with and be happy being associated with.

I know some of the stuff is seen as nerdy but that’s why I also discuss other topics such as football & plenty of them have seen me in football shirts. I go to other events like business networking events, live sports (like I went to watch mixed sex student ice hockey & I also went to watch an FA Cup game), talks from bishops, classical music concerts, stand up comedy gigs, student pubs, museums etc… I really do a mix so that I should be seen as a more all-rounder rather than being seen as just a jock or just a nerd.

As for films, I watch all sorts. Everything from 1920s silent flicks to the latest blockbusters. I mainly like war, samurai, martial arts & western films but I also watch a ton of other stuff including romantic comedies, Marvel/DC superhero, anime, teen comedies, slashers, sci-fi etc…

Sorry, I’m just really not into most modern music. I’ve tried but most of the Radio 1 sort of stuff sounds awful.

I don’t really want a woman with the same interests or personality as me, I prefer shared values over shared interests. I like talking to women doing vastly different degrees. I’m doing a STEM course so I like talking to nursing or law women as I like understanding more topics that I’m less knowledgeable about. It’s a great chance to learn more & take an interest in something they’re passionate about.

...but this is your problem.

I'm not saying you have to like the stuff, but at least be aware of what the latest trends are (e.g. what songs are popular, Love Island, whatever's trending on Netflix etc.). Fair enough, you can talk about the intellectual / academic stuff sometimes, but they're also going to want to have a , 'good ol' gossip' about the latest trash TV.

If you really are adamant you don't want anything to do with "Pop-Culture", then you need to pick the kind of events that will allow you to talk / interact with other people. Typically, girls aren't that interested in football, and people go to business events to network or talk "shop"; not really to meet prospective partners. Have you ever thought about going to a pub quiz night?... or an organised tour of something (e.g. City, museum, a famous factory etc.). Have you thought about joining a dance or a drama group? Have you tried being taught a foreign language? All of the above would give you some opportunity to interact with others.

I do talk about some pop culture stuff as well. I don't talk extensively about sports with women, I'm just saying that some of them know I like football, they don't think I'm only interested in "nerdy" topics like politics.

Yes, I've been to a pub quiz and I was on a table with all women uni students that I spoke to and got on social media afterwards. I've attended other uni socials where there have been mainly if not all women present.

Yes, I joined a dance group after a female friend invited me. I think she has a boyfriend anyway so it wasn't because she was interested in me. I danced with several of the women there including the instructor and my female friend.

I attend tons of uni societies and speak to women. I speak to women at different churches as well. I speak to plenty of women in person and I message a few of them. I've asked out several in person or over messages on social media or text.

So it sounds like you're actively working the foundations... which is good.

How do you express your "romantic interest" in them exactly? Do you flirt or make any attempts to test the water first? Do you try and break the "touch" barrier in a safe way? Do you smile and pay attention when talking?

Give us an example of exactly how you would ask a girl out