# RAF : Officer / Pilot Entry

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16 years ago
#381
If people are worried about mental arithmetic stuff, next time you're in a car and pass a road sign work out how long it'll take you to get to each destination on the sign at your current speed.
lol not a bad idea, but the mental arithmetic (if thats how you spell it) isnt very hard at OASC. Every question you will be asked will have some sort of shortcut around the maths, its knowing the techniques that will make you fast.
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16 years ago
#382
Aye, and doing stuff like that is a good way to get the shortcuts drilled into your head! It's basically an adults game of times tables. Take the times to travel a mile at a certail speed: 60mph = 1m, 12mph = 5m 15mph = 4m etc etc, if it's ten times that then it's a tenth of the time etc etc.

Not rocket science, but it's easy to do it a lot faster than thinking 'Speed equals distance over time' and arsing about with units and stuff.
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16 years ago
#383
I suspected the mental arithmetic element would consist of questions where there is a long route and a short route to the answer. What you guys are saying confirms this.

For practise questions, I've been trying to find the short-cuts each time. Attempting to solve each one with the standard "speed/distance/time" formula is going to take far too long.

I've found that it's best to work it down to how long it takes to travel a mile at said speed, then go from there. Easy way to do it: Take the speed, and see how many times it goes into 60, this will give you the time it takes to travel a mile. Multiply this by the time to get your answer. Much quicker method!!
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16 years ago
#384
(Original post by js_atco)
I suspected the mental arithmetic element would consist of questions where there is a long route and a short route to the answer. What you guys are saying confirms this.

For practise questions, I've been trying to find the short-cuts each time. Attempting to solve each one with the standard "speed/distance/time" formula is going to take far too long.

I've found that it's best to work it down to how long it takes to travel a mile at said speed, then go from there. Easy way to do it: Take the speed, and see how many times it goes into 60, this will give you the time it takes to travel a mile. Multiply this by the time to get your answer. Much quicker method!!

ive had my first attempt at oasc. believe me, the aptitude and maths wont be your worry.. its not hard... concentrate on the internview
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16 years ago
#385
hey, im intending to join the RAF as either a WSO (navigator) or an air loadmaster (im still deciding which one at the moment) i would love to be a navigator working in a fast jet but (call this immature if you wish) would really not like working on the flight deck of a sentry/nimrod etc as i would prefer to be in amongst the exitement a bit more. The question is: to what extent does the future navigator get to decide how he is streamed at the correct point in training, and if navigators are streamed judging on ability, what abilities can a future navigator have which would put him on the jet stream? i understand why pilots would be streamed on ability but not navs. (sorry if this is a bit long winded by the way)
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16 years ago
#386
(Original post by Ed1000)
ive had my first attempt at oasc. believe me, the aptitude and maths wont be your worry.. its not hard... concentrate on the internview
So did u fail 1st time? I'm going on April 27th and starting to get a little nervous now. I've taken some time off work to get down to some proper revision.

What did you find hardest about the interview? I'm expecting it to be pretty thorough!

Cheers for any tips you can give me !
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16 years ago
#387
Someone told me that a lot of the tests have multiple choice answers. Is this true?
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16 years ago
#388
(Original post by will 04)
hey, im intending to join the RAF as either a WSO (navigator) or an air loadmaster (im still deciding which one at the moment) i would love to be a navigator working in a fast jet but (call this immature if you wish) would really not like working on the flight deck of a sentry/nimrod etc as i would prefer to be in amongst the exitement a bit more. The question is: to what extent does the future navigator get to decide how he is streamed at the correct point in training, and if navigators are streamed judging on ability, what abilities can a future navigator have which would put him on the jet stream? i understand why pilots would be streamed on ability but not navs. (sorry if this is a bit long winded by the way)
Sorry, can't answer the first part of your question, but as to the jetstream part.....it has just retired from RAF service (March 19th)!!
The jetsteam used to part of the WSO training before streaming, but no longer. As far as I'm aware unless you are an instructor you wouldn't have the opportunity to work on the Jetstream (even if it was in service) anyway.
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16 years ago
#389
(Original post by mark1010)
Someone told me that a lot of the tests have multiple choice answers. Is this true?
Yep that is very true, but like all good maultiple choice tests there are often two that are way off and the reamining two contain the right answer and an answer that is very close to being right!
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16 years ago
#390
(Original post by will 04)
hey, im intending to join the RAF as either a WSO (navigator) or an air loadmaster (im still deciding which one at the moment) i would love to be a navigator working in a fast jet but (call this immature if you wish) would really not like working on the flight deck of a sentry/nimrod etc as i would prefer to be in amongst the exitement a bit more. The question is: to what extent does the future navigator get to decide how he is streamed at the correct point in training, and if navigators are streamed judging on ability, what abilities can a future navigator have which would put him on the jet stream? i understand why pilots would be streamed on ability but not navs. (sorry if this is a bit long winded by the way)
As a WSO, they will take into account your personal preference, but ultimately the RAF decide which stream you enter - Fast Jet/Multi-engine.
Your ability will be assessed at elementary training, and a decision made on your strengths/weaknesses. If you chose WSO as a branch, remember that you're more likely to fly on E3D/Tri-Star/Sentinel/Nimrod aircraft, as you are to fly on Tornados. If this doesn't appeal, think carefully.
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16 years ago
#391
Hey, does anyone know any thing more about "Provost Officers" than whats on the careers website please? Are they the officers in command of the RAF police, are they something different?

cheers
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16 years ago
#392
Hey, does anyone know any thing more about "Provost Officers" than whats on the careers website please? Are they the officers in command of the RAF police, are they something different?

cheers

Provost is currently my second choice of trades. (I'm due to go to OASC in June). Other than the detailed print-out you can get from any careers office, there's not much info available out there. I can give you my interpretation if you like? (I'm an officer in the VR(T) looking after Cadets. 3 years worth of watching!)

To be a provost, it takes a special sort of person - one with a good! sense of humour. There not typically liked, due to the job they do. I spoke to one provost who said when he move donto station, another officer tipped the contents of a bin through his window. On record, he said it was his fault for leaving the window open. Off record he said it was some else with a narrow mind who could accept that he was just doing his job, like the next man!

To answer your question, provost officers usually end up in charge of station security. You would look after a flight of police officers and oversee investigations. However, you could end up specialising in a branch such as IT and work from Provost HQ. I THINK its at RAF Innsworth but don't hold me to that.

Otherwise, thats pretty much it.

Hope it helps you with your choice.

Mike
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16 years ago
#393
im 19 and never joined the atc when i was younger. i was just browsing over the web site and found it to be very interesting, unfortuanately it says you have to be 18 maximum to join. as i really wish to become a pilot i feel this would help a lot, ant ideas on ways to gain the knowledge taught in the atc? im currently in lancaster so any info would be great? is it worth asking the uni otc for some help?
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16 years ago
#394
Mike,

cheers that does help, don't fancy having bin's thrown through my window though, still we used to call the IT guys on our site the thought police, so would be good to see what its like being on the other side! So you're basically in the RAF police only as an officer right?

Cheers.

(good luck with the OASC)
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16 years ago
#395
(Original post by me99dhj)
Sorry, can't answer the first part of your question, but as to the jetstream part.....it has just retired from RAF service (March 19th)!!
The jetsteam used to part of the WSO training before streaming, but no longer. As far as I'm aware unless you are an instructor you wouldn't have the opportunity to work on the Jetstream (even if it was in service) anyway.
The "jet stream" is different from the Jetstream T.Mk1. The Jetstream was a twin engined turboprop used to train multi-engine pilots, the "jet stream" is presumably a term for the fast-jet training stream.

Navigators are trained on the Dominie, which is remarkably similar to the Jetstream in looks but is a completely different aircraft. It's still in service. You're right the Jetstream's gone.
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16 years ago
#396
(Original post by Wzz)
The "jet stream" is different from the Jetstream T.Mk1. The Jetstream was a twin engined turboprop used to train multi-engine pilots, the "jet stream" is presumably a term for the fast-jet training stream.

Navigators are trained on the Dominie, which is remarkably similar to the Jetstream in looks but is a completely different aircraft. It's still in service. You're right the Jetstream's gone.
Apologies there then! Misinterpreted the wording... Some interesting info there though.
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16 years ago
#397
Just had a letter from Cranwell saying my OASC on 27th April has been postponed due to "staff shortages", my new dat is June 22nd.

As you can imagine i'm pretty gutted, anyone else heard anything?

I'm just slightly concerned that staff shortages may not be the real reason behind it.
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16 years ago
#398
Sounds slightly alarming, but it could also be down to a shortage of applicants, I'm sure it happens. April - July appears to be a fairly slack time for applicants (people having exams etc) with the number rising in August (when people get their results). It may be that it wasn't efficient enough for them to be running as many OASCs, compared to the number of applicants for that period, so they've consolidated, and moved a few people around. May be something completely different, but I'm sure it makes sense.
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16 years ago
#399
oh just something about medical entry to the RAF, whats the RAF's policy on excema? i have excema , its not visable, just a small patch of dry skin behind my ear, never caused me troubles, but have been to the doctor about it and said it was excema, does this affect entrance?

Anyone have any ideas, i mean obviously i'll have to tell them this is i was to get so far as the OASC,
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16 years ago
#400
oh just something about medical entry to the RAF, whats the RAF's policy on excema? i have excema , its not visable, just a small patch of dry skin behind my ear, never caused me troubles, but have been to the doctor about it and said it was excema, does this affect entrance?

Anyone have any ideas, i mean obviously i'll have to tell them this is i was to get so far as the OASC,
I am not 100% sure, but it probably depends on what trade you are applying for
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