Pretentiousness of the burka

ponjavic

That's quite a sensible thought.

Oh and OP, if I see a woman in a burkha, I usually shudder and think '****, she must be fugly' and leave as quickly as possible from the scene. Does it's job, I guess if my tiddly-wink isn't erectified.

Reply 22

ponjavic

OP

ADREAM

Oh and OP, if I see a woman in a burkha, I usually shudder and think '****, she must be fugly' and leave as quickly as possible from the scene. Does it's job, I guess if my tiddly-wink isn't erectified.

I do more of a 'Oh you're so hot I can't even contain myself it's good you're wearing that dress? Not even close :p:

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Still it's kind of bad you leave as quickly as possible from the scene =D

Reply 23

ADREAM

Oh and OP, if I see a woman in a burkha, I usually shudder and think '****, she must be fugly' and leave as quickly as possible from the scene. Does it's job, I guess if my tiddly-wink isn't erectified.

I would rather wear a burka and have men speculate that I'm ugly than being automatically sexualised and you have your 'tiddly-wink erectified'.

Reply 24

musti123

ADREAM

Let 'em wear what they want. I don't really give a **** if someone's in a nikey hoodie and I don't quite give a **** if a woman decides to wear some cloth over her head.

exactly end of let women wear what they want a 3' piece of cloth doesnt stop the earth stand still

Reply 25

missygeorgia

I would rather wear a burka and have men speculate that I'm ugly than being automatically sexualised and you have your 'tiddly-wink erectified'.

Oh.

You're one of those annoying feminists.

Well, do go around London in your burkha ma'am. :smile:

Reply 26

ponjavic

I do more of a 'Oh you're so hot I can't even contain myself it's good you're wearing that dress? Not even close :p:

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Still it's kind of bad you leave as quickly as possible from the scene =D

It's not quite me. I just follow my tiddly-wink. :yes:

Reply 27

ADREAM

Oh.

You're one of those annoying feminists.

Well, do go around London in your burkha ma'am. :smile:

Right, an annoying feminist. Because God forbid somebody raises the issue of sexism. Yeah, those annoying egalitarians, disgusting really.

Reply 28

tazarooni89

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ponjavic

I am not well versed with the Koran but I have come to believe that the point of the burka is to spare men from temptation (to put it far from eloquently). In my instance this completely failed.

The purpose of it is so that women are recognised as being modest women.

You may have considered the possibility that one of them was attractive - but there is pretty much no doubt that had you attempted to make a move on her, she would have said no. So I suppose it prevents men from even thinking they have a chance to score with them.

The purpose of it is to give women diginity in the fact that they aren't advertising what they aren't offering - you can tell just by looking at them that they aren't slutty or 'easy', whereas this wouldn't be true of a woman who walks down Broad Street (A street in Birmingham with lots of nightclubs) in the middle of a cold winters night, wearing almost nothing but high heels, a skirt which is a couple of inches long, and a bra, clutching herself and shivering to keep warm, as I have seen so often.

The purpose of covering up is not simply because "men are all pervs".

Reply 29

missygeorgia

Right, an annoying feminist. Because God forbid somebody raises the issue of sexism. Yeah, those annoying egalitarians, disgusting really.

Oh.

You're also a social recluse.

G'night, ma'am. :smile:

Reply 30

edge

I thought that the Qur'an didnt actually mention anything about women having to cover their head & face?

Its another of those 'interpretations'

Reply 31

tazarooni89

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edge

I thought that the Qur'an didnt actually mention anything about women having to cover their head & face?

Its another of those 'interpretations'

Well no it doesn't. But then Muslim women aren't necessarily going to cover the bare minimum, and nothing more.

In the UK, it is culturally unacceptable for a woman to display her breasts or her downstairs region in public. But even still, a woman wearing a skimpy top and tiny skirt is not going to be considered as modest as a woman who wears jeans and a jumper.

The Qur'an simply asks women to cover their entire body "except that which is ordinarily apparent" i.e. don't dress in a manner which is particularly revealing. Although it could be argued that covering the head is necessary, because the Qur'an does specifically mention "headscarves".

But in any case, I suppose many women may cover up more than they need to, out of extra-modesty, or for cultural reasons.

Reply 32

Stanley90

13

Seriously though, who cares?

Do you even realise how many muslim women wear the burka? Probably less than 0.01% of the UK population. Most muslim women choose not to. And the fact is: they CHOOSE to wear, yes CHOOSE, they are not oppressed, they wear it out of CHOICE. So that rules out the oppression argument.

The other thing is people complaining about how it affects others around them and is a barrier in communication. I repeat: LESS THAN 0.01% OF THE POPULATION. WHO CARES?

And finally, you saying that it's ineffective since you were perving over one of the women anyway, well I hope you can understand the irony in that statement!

Reply 33

ADREAM

Oh.

You're also a social recluse.

Er. social recluse? You got that from where?

In all seriousness, I find it disturbing that I can't bring up the issue of sexism without being branded an 'annoying feminist', particularly on a student website. Says a lot about how seriously sexism is taken. imo.

Reply 34

edge

it must severely restrict their life though

cant get a bus pass :biggrin:

Reply 35

Stanley90

And finally, you saying that it's ineffective since you were perving over one of the women anyway, well I hope you can understand the irony in that statement!

Great point.

Reply 36

edge

it must severely restrict their life though

cant get a bus pass :biggrin:

really?

Reply 37

edge

missygeorgia

really?

hmm, you never seen a bus pass?
has your picture on it, so they can tell its your pass

oh, & most uni's have photo id cards nowadays

Reply 38

Stanley90

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missygeorgia

really?

Hell no.. the only problem I've heard of is with passports but even in these cases they remove the niqab from their face and take the passport photo but when their passport is requested they can ask for a female to look at theirs, such is the greatness of our country!

Reply 39

musti123