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The Guardian and the Daily Delegraph are opposites in terms of politics and equally bad in terms of bias. The Independent is even worse than the Guardian in terms of subjectivity ditto the Daily Mail in relation to the Telegraph. The Times is the closest to being objective imo.
The Guardian : Centre Left
The Sun / News of the World: Right Wing (nationalist and populist)
The Independent : Centrist / Liberal
Daily Mail : Right Wing
Daily Telegraph : Conservative
The Times : Centre Right
The Daily Mirror : Labour
Daily Express : Right-wing
The Observer : Centre Left
The Financial Times : "Leftie Twit" (see post 27 in this thread) has read this paper for 40 years and enjoys pleasuring himself to it.
The Daily Star : Right-Wing
The Morning Star : Socialist/Communist
Weekly Worker : For real communists

Generally.
(edited 7 years ago)
Been corrected :wink:
Reply 4
It's not possible for newspapers to be without bias, so to some extent you have to pick the bias you're most comfortable with.

You could, I suppose, read several papers and compare how they present the same issues/stories, then make your own mind up.

I'm an occasional Guardian reader but I wouldn't say I was loyal to its politics.

Oswy.
The extreme right-wing and left-wing (although mainly right-wing) are just too sensational for my liking. I agree with what Oswy said though.
Reply 6
Oswy
It's not possible for newspapers to be without bias, so to some extent you have to pick the bias you're most comfortable with.

You could, I suppose, read several papers and compare how they present the same issues/stories, then make your own mind up.

I'm an occasional Guardian reader but I wouldn't say I was loyal to its politics.

Oswy.


With broadsheets though, you generally find that they leave their bias to the editorial pages. With tabloids, the news itself is often extremely biased.
Personally I'd put the FT about as close to the centre as it'll go. I don't agree that it's "liberal".
Wasn't there a line in 'Yes Minister' along the lines of "Guardian readers think they should run the country, Times is for people who do run the country, Mail is for people who think somebody else runs the country...............The Sun don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big tits".

Anyone know the full line? When I heard it I found it a rather enlightening illustration of the British newspaper scene.
Jim Hacker: I know exactly who reads the papers: The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by people who actually do run the country; The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; The Financial Times is read by people who own the country; The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?
Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.
an Siarach
The Guardian and the Daily Delegraph are opposites in terms of politics and equally bad in terms of bias. The Independent is even worse than the Guardian in terms of subjectivity ditto the Daily Mail in relation to the Telegraph. The Times is the closest to being objective imo.


Funny you say that. I read The Times quite often, as well The Scotsman still.
an Siarach
The Guardian and the Daily Delegraph are opposites in terms of politics and equally bad in terms of bias. The Independent is even worse than the Guardian in terms of subjectivity ditto the Daily Mail in relation to the Telegraph. The Times is the closest to being objective imo.


Just because a paper or person is in the middle ground of the political spectrum, that doesn't make them more 'objective' than someone who's on the extremes.
Reply 12
Thanks, great help.

For the record I'm a Labour fan, hate if you want, but I love the Guardian. I did go through the phase, as stated earlier, that i tried all newspapers for a couple of weeks just to see who i could bond with and actually enjoy. I hated the Times, Daily Mail, Daily Express and the Telegraph, the only other paper I kinda liked was the Independant.

Since I follow politics quite a bit and show some form of interest in it, I'm actually not surprised now that I bonded with the Guardian + Independant, since they're Labour/centre bias, without even knowing they were.
Darren Marc
Thanks, great help.
For the record I'm a Labour fan

Lol, I like your use of 'fan' . :smile:
Reply 14
Thanks,

I guess someone in London has to be a "fan"
Reply 15
Since I follow politics quite a bit and show some form of interest in it, I'm actually not surprised now that I bonded with the Guardian + Independant, since they're Labour/centre bias, without even knowing they were.


What? Guardian and Independant, centre ground? Labour supporting? I wouldn't have called either of those papers 'Labour-ite'...
Reply 16
I get the Guardian because i quite like the font!
LOL @ The Weekly Worker...
Reply 18
There's political slant, then there's out and out unashamed bias. In my opinion the more respectful papers like the Guardian and Daily Telegraph, are clearly slanted to the left and right respectively. But some papers are completely bias from top to bottom like the Daily Mail. At least papers respectful papers allow contributions from people on the other side of the political spectrum, and often bash their own side. The Guardian's been quite critical of Laobur, and it was the Daily Telegraph that once savaged Major.
Reply 19
Personally I prefer reading the Times (even though i am left-leaning) , because I don't think its too overtly bias, and I like it's style. The Guardian is too often just a review of the Labour leadership contest, and the Telegraph a salutation for Cameron's advances. The Daily Mail is just so vitriolic and full of hate, it's depressing to read. I find myself feeling sick at the world around me and suspicious of everything and everyone.

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